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  1. #11
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    NightReach's Avatar
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    Teresa Faintsmile
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    Seeing how Double warr has already did t5, It really isnt a problem (extreme hard mode sure). but pld mt warr ot is obviously the best combination and any tank worth his or her salt will have both leveled.

    We don't know how much increased enmity is on defiance, as ideally you want to weave all 3 rotations as MT and 2 storms as OT. I don't even like to use fracture cuz it drains TP like no tomorrow.
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    Kaellyn Godbreaker
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    The way I see the rotation simply based on the fact that they are increasing enmity gen from defiance... BB combo may be 1 time for the opener and use the other 2 the rest of the time.
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    Pacifica Auras
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireseen View Post
    The way I see the rotation simply based on the fact that they are increasing enmity gen from defiance... BB combo may be 1 time for the opener and use the other 2 the rest of the time.
    I have a feeling that this won't be the case, only because the increased Enmity on BB Combo is very significant, and if what you speculate holds to be true then we won't be able to off tank ever, as we would always pull threat from the MT.

    But it would be VERY nice if we didn't have to toss out 2 BB combos to start off every fight after 2.1! I always feel like I'm wasting potential damage when I do it.
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightReach View Post
    Seeing how Double warr has already did t5, It really isnt a problem (extreme hard mode sure). but pld mt warr ot is obviously the best combination and any tank worth his or her salt will have both leveled.

    We don't know how much increased enmity is on defiance, as ideally you want to weave all 3 rotations as MT and 2 storms as OT. I don't even like to use fracture cuz it drains TP like no tomorrow.
    One Warrior was really geared, the other was only slightly above what DL Warriors have. It was a sloppy run at that, both Warriors died at least once with half the party dying just before Twin went down.
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  5. #15
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    Vactus Serakai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    One Warrior was really geared, the other was only slightly above what DL Warriors have. It was a sloppy run at that, both Warriors died at least once with half the party dying just before Twin went down.
    Sloppy or not, it still happened.

    OT: I have nothing to add :/

    Quote Originally Posted by NightReach View Post
    /snip

    any tank worth his or her salt will have both leveled.
    I hate this sentence.
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  6. #16
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vactus View Post
    Sloppy or not, it still happened.

    OT: I have nothing to add :/

    That's just it though..if it isn't clean, there is something wrong.
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    Genji Xiii
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZDamned View Post
    But it would be VERY nice if we didn't have to toss out 2 BB combos to start off every fight after 2.1! I always feel like I'm wasting potential damage when I do it.
    So pull with Unchained or Berserk. It'll be fine, really as long as you can reach your next threat rotation (should be about 17.5 seconds). Hope the healers dont spam aoe's! On that note if you're with a static in T5, it shouldn't be hard to let them know that in favor of getting your threat buffs up tell them their CD's can wait a full rotation.
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  8. #18
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Depending on how long the SP debuff lasts, it seems like SP will be the go to secondary combo while tanking and the SE combo will be the go to while off tanking to add in some extra DPS. If I'm main tanking, I'm honestly not worried about my own DPS. It's nice, but staying alive and maintaining aggro is what I'm concerned about. It's normally easy to do that on bosses without ever using SE at all.

    So, while MTing, depending on the duration of Storm's Path... BB, BB, SP, BB, SP, BB, Etc. While off tanking, SE, SP (to help the MT), BB, SE, BB, SE, etc (unless you need to throw in another SP to help the MT).
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