Updates: FFXI and FFXIV, a comparison

[Wolfie]

I didnt know the battle system was 60% of the game.

There's battle system, class system, craft system, gather system, economy, market/trade system, storage system, and game world that still need to be done. Exp point acquisition has been dealt with, and other levelup things are coming with the redone battle system. And there's still a lot of basic systems that were added or still need to be added, like quest system, mail system, transport system, enchant/disenchant system, etc.

Yeah, I would say that way more than 60% of the game needs work.

[viion]

There's battle system, class system, craft system, gather system, economy, market/trade system, storage system, and game world that still need to be done. Exp point acquisition has been dealt with, and other levelup things are coming with the redone battle system. And there's still a lot of basic systems that were added or still need to be added, like quest system, mail system, transport system, enchant/disenchant system, etc.

Yeah, I would say that way more than 60% of the game needs work.

They're not doing anything with market/trade, economy, all thats been changed with gathering is the new items added. Nothing is changing with craft system, the only thing changing with class is skills are getting change so thats skills not the classes. nothings changing with storage or the game world. or transport, or quest, or mail.

All that we know is: Stamina removed, Auto Attack added, Physical/Elemental attributes redesigned, Skills for the classes redesigned and 3 dungeons being added. The rest comes after 1.18

So it is slow and battle is not 60%. Why do they not have a guy working on new guildleves or quests? Why do not they have a 3D Modeller making new mobs? in 9 months we've had 1 new mob. I've not heard much news of a lot of gear coming out, im only expecting something like the faction stuff.

[Ilean]

They're not doing anything with market/trade, economy, all thats been changed with gathering is the new items added. Nothing is changing with craft system, the only thing changing with class is skills are getting change so thats skills not the classes. nothings changing with storage or the game world. or transport, or quest, or mail.

All that we know is: Stamina removed, Auto Attack added, Physical/Elemental attributes redesigned, Skills for the classes redesigned and 3 dungeons being added. The rest comes after 1.18

So it is slow and battle is not 60%. Why do they not have a guy working on new guildleves or quests? Why do not they have a 3D Modeller making new mobs? in 9 months we've had 1 new mob. I've not heard much news of a lot of gear coming out, im only expecting something like the faction stuff.

QQ moar!!!!

[viion]

QQ moar!!!!

And what a typical immature reply...

[Wolfie]

They're not doing anything with market/trade, economy, all thats been changed with gathering is the new items added. Nothing is changing with craft system, the only thing changing with class is skills are getting change so thats skills not the classes. nothings changing with storage or the game world. or transport, or quest, or mail.

All that we know is: Stamina removed, Auto Attack added, Physical/Elemental attributes redesigned, Skills for the classes redesigned and 3 dungeons being added. The rest comes after 1.18

So it is slow and battle is not 60%. Why do they not have a guy working on new guildleves or quests? Why do not they have a 3D Modeller making new mobs? in 9 months we've had 1 new mob. I've not heard much news of a lot of gear coming out, im only expecting something like the faction stuff.

Yep. They have a million things that need to be redone, implemented, or expanded that are not battle system, yet nothing is happening there.

They're either lazy, incompetent, short staffed, don't care, or the game is FUBAR. Or any combination of those.

[viion]

Yep. They have a million things that need to be redone, implemented, or expanded that are not battle system, yet nothing is happening there.

They're either lazy, incompetent, short staffed, don't care, or the game is FUBAR. Or any combination of those.

Most likely that one. Not to mention some of the staff is shared with XI (or just not working on XIV all together)

[Betelgeuzah]

Yep. They have a million things that need to be redone, implemented, or expanded that are not battle system, yet nothing is happening there.

They're either lazy, incompetent, short staffed, don't care, or the game is FUBAR. Or any combination of those.

Explain your reasoning further. If they can fix the game in the timeframe they've set themselves, they are neither of those. Your personal timeline has no weight here at all.

[Wolfie]

Explain your reasoning further. If they can fix the game in the timeframe they've set themselves, they are neither of those. Your personal timeline has no weight here at all.

Just because they set the time frame doesn't mean it's a good or even acceptable one. They're not making the game for themselves. They're slow as all hell for a AAA developer working on a flagship title.

[Betelgeuzah]

Just because they set the time frame doesn't mean it's a good or even acceptable one. They're not making the game for themselves. They're slow as all hell for a AAA developer working on a flagship title.

And who decides whether it's an acceptable one? You? You don't even know what said timeline is, and you can't even make an educated guess because you have basically no idea about their progress.

[Wolfie]

And who decides whether it's an acceptable one? You? You don't even know what said timeline is, and you can't even make an educated guess because you have basically no idea about their progress.

Is your entire argument "durrr u dun kno nothin only devs kno"?

I can judge the speed at which they could or should be moving by comparing FFXIV with current and previous MMO's, including their own MMO, FFXI.