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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Feedback and suggestion:

    Don't have the game close and disconnect when fullscreen is lost (like nearly every other game I have ever played)
    The thing is, the problem also occurs in windowed mode. From what i can tell is that when the game loses its "focus", the game will automatically shut its self down. For instance, i got a PC with Windows 7 installed. I currently run the game in Windows mode, because i want to be able to browse the internet or work with other applications at the same time. If you haven't turned off the UAC (User Account Control), Windows might give you a pop-up asking if you are sure that you want to run an uncertified application, etc. When that happens, FFXIV loses its "focus" and shutsdown.

    Sure, i can turn off the UAC, disable my "Windows"-key and what not. However, that's not the point. The game should not have to behave like this because it loses "focus". So, yes... You can see it as a bug. But it's not a critical one which has to be addressed right now.

    That's my take on it. (^_^ )
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    Whenever the computer calls for control of the display settings, FFXIV forgets what its is supposed to be. That's the problem that should never have happened. It's why you can't even change graphics settings while in-game. That would require the computer to call for control of the display settings and...ohsh....what was I supposed to be agABORT ABORT ERRROR ERROR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    The fatal flaw, and the one that's apparently not being corrected, is that you never make this mistake in the first place as a respectable, or even official, game developer. So many errors in XIV are simply never events for a game maker.

    This is like if Derek Jeter took off to third base if he got a hit. You do that when you're 7 and have never hit a ball before in your life.
    Yup. So... what are we gonna do now? It happened. We can't do anything but waiting for them to fix it, as they already know about this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Yup. So... what are we gonna do now? It happened. We can't do anything but waiting for them to fix it, as they already know about this issue.
    They're going to take it with a smile from every player who wants to take a shot at them, and they'll thank those players for their feedback. That's what.

    Anyone telling people to stop whining placates inexcusable behavior by SE.

    There isn't enough criticism in the world to punish Square for being that incompetent. This game has mistakes that would have killed anything but a shameless name-dropped game.
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    Last edited by Peregrine; 06-06-2011 at 04:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    They're going to take it with a smile from every player who wants to take a shot at them, and they'll thank those players for their feedback. That's what.

    Anyone telling people to stop whining placates inexcusable behavior by SE.

    There isn't enough criticism in the world to punish Square for being that incompetent. This game has mistakes that would have killed anything but a shameless name-dropped game.
    Gotcha. And so? You want them to feel ashamed for things they've done before?
    You just want them to suffer instead on fixing the game, by judging that post.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashvrei View Post
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    Thank you for reporting this concern. I will be moving this to the general discussion section so we can receive some additional feedback and suggestions.

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    SQUARE ENIX Moderator .
    Hi,

    I just wanted to say welcome to the forums, since you are new here I would like to direct you to multiple topics of continuing and ongoing issues with FFXIV.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    Gotcha. And so? You want them to feel ashamed for things they've done before?
    You just want them to suffer instead on fixing the game, by judging that post.
    I want them to do both, so they never have to do either again.
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  8. #48
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    In Neptune's defense, I don't usually see him so hostile. I understand why this is a point of frustration.

    It's not only a problem with FFXIV, but FFXI didn't even implement a windowed mode for years, so if you wanted to do any internet research you had to have a laptop next to you or use a 3rd party windower. Roll that frustration into FFXIV, a game that is supposed to be a next gen MMO. And you get people who defend the game by saying, "Well, at least this game came with a windowed mode..." Really? Should our standards be this low?

    Here's the problem. Even with all the extra graphical options to turn down the settings, the optimization on this game is horrible. If your rig still has a problem running the game, you can get better performance playing in full screen.

    Plus, windowed mode was not implemented well (at least on Windows 7). It still cuts the very bottom of my screen off.

    But, if you want to be able to do all that 3rd party research this game forces you to do (and all the white knights who simply say, "It's all on the Lodestone/internet" when you point out that text commands and recipes aren't anywhere to be found in the game)... you have to play in Windowed mode. Which is, frankly, a load of BS.

    I hate windowed mode. I always play my games in full screen, because they look and perform better. And in a game that values aesthetics so much, you would think they'd realize the value of full screen functionality.

    Plus, I wish I could just say that playing in windowed mode alleviates any alt+tab or window key mishaps. But, no. I can tell you that in Windows 7, while playing in windowed mode, if I'm doing too much multitasking, the game will randomly lose DirectX and shut down.

    In a game where any kind of disconnect causes you to automatically fail a guildleve? Unacceptable.

    In a game released in 2010 that is supposed to be a next generation MMO? Unacceptable.

    Yes, this has already been brought to the dev's attention. And they've responded that addressing this issue will take time. But it remains a point of frustration.

    Alt+tab or pressing the windows key while in full screen should not crash the game, it should minimize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Where did I say in my post that I supported any bugs to stay in the game again pointed out that they tried to correct said issue with the windower mode because people complained in 11 that they would not be able to stay in game and go off to check out other things on their computer. Thus was the reason why the hacked windower came out then SE themselves implimented it into the first FFXI. Now they automatically included windower mode in this game without having to wait years for their customers to complain and whine about it. And quite honestly I'd rather use windowed mode instead of the full screen but then again to each their own.
    I shall oblige you sir. Your analysis of the history of FFXI is flawed. A windowed mode was added to FFXI not because people complained, but because they wanted to be able to run the game in a window. Running the game in a smaller window was not possible prior to that update. Anyway this thread is a bug report, so you mentioning the windowed mode is presumably to dismiss the bug? It's a non sequitur. Why don't you post something more along the lines of

    A) I'm irrational and I want this bug to be in the game
    or
    B) Yes, this is a bug. Please fix it dev team.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Really people just don't have the self-control to not whine about seeing criticism that they've already seen. Thus, they end up getting stuck defending ridiculously stupid causes like the game forgetting its own display settings if the computer doesn't perpetually hold its hand.
    Human behavior.. alas. These ungrateful mofos should be thanking the mod that saw fit to draw more attention to this bug instead of making fools out of themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by derenkirby View Post
    this is so easily fixable by the end user, probably took more time to sign into the forums to complain than to fix the issue, autohotkey, or any other of the options available will fix it, autohotkey also allows for easy movement of the game around multiple monitors and a lot of other uses
    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    Hi,

    I just wanted to say welcome to the forums, since you are new here I would like to direct you to multiple topics of continuing and ongoing issues with FFXIV.


    Linkshell Management Recognition



    Linkshell Administration Options


    Overtaxation of PC Hardware

    Separating Crafting Leves from Battlecraft

    Chocobos and Airships

    Market Ward Ongoing Issues

    Please use this time to familiarize yourself with the ongoing issues the game currently has that the community is demanding be resolved.
    Why are you assuming that the mod isn't aware of the threads on the first few pages? The mod made an organizational decision by moving this thread and I think that characterizes a familiarity with game issues.
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    Last edited by Xophious; 06-08-2011 at 07:20 AM. Reason: Post edited due to violation of the Forum Guidelines

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