Pressing the Windows button on the keyboard in full screen mode crashes the game

[KaiKatzchen]

Actually you sir are mistaken because your quote does not support your claim it was due to complaints of any kind, let alone of the kind I was referring to.

One: I am a woman, not a sir.

Two: It says in black a white (and I'll even be kind and bold the areas that show connection)

The additional features comes after vocal support and demand by the community (YOU) to allow a built-in window mode option

and you said:

A windowed mode was added to FFXI not because people complained, but because they wanted to be able to run the game in a window.

I don't know about everyone else but 'vocal support and demand' sounds like a nice way of saying complaining to me. I played FFXI for 6 years and I was on a lot of forums during that time, believe me there was a lot of complaining just like you're doing now about the FFXIV full screen mode and the window button.

Three: This is obviously one of those cases where if everyone does not think exactly like you and agree with you 100% they are either a white knight or a troll. These are also the exact threads that never get anything accomplished because the OP is always being rude to people (unless they are supporting him) who have an alternate or slightly different view.

If you have any complaints about the quote saying that it was put into FFXI due to vocal and demanding players then you might want to contact SE since I found it on their official site. Obviously their are wrong too, and you might want to let them know that.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...93/detail.html

Good Day Sir or Ma'am, I'll be done with this thread now.

[Cutriss]

If you have any complaints about the quote saying that it was put into FFXI due to vocal and demanding players then you might want to contact SE since I found it on their official site. Obviously their are wrong too, and you might want to let them know that.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...93/detail.html

To be fair, the quote you reference is editorial material reporting on the decision, and not direct from SE. SE themselves have not, to my knowledge, given a direct reason for the inclusion of a windowed mode.

That said, their windower was well-known to have a poor framerate and bugs of its own compared to the Azaril version.

[Rowyne]

And row, disabling areo snap should fix the issue your having with the windowed mode. might take a bit of fiddling when you launch the game to get the window just right but it should be possible to create a faux full screen experience.
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Oh, wow, Griss, thanks! I'm embarrassed to admit I didn't know I could turn that feature off. It's been driving me nuts because I don't like computers telling me what they think I should do (hence why I'm a Mac hater). Now I can arrange my windows however I like, and not get them shoved downward!

This does make my FFXIV experience (and Windows experience) slightly better. Thanks.

P.S. However, still doesn't change the fact that SE needs to fix the DirectX issue so I can play in full screen again. >.<

[Griss]

P.S. However, still doesn't change the fact that SE needs to fix the DirectX issue so I can play in full screen again. >.<

No, No it doesn't. but ya gotta do what ya gotta do until the actual problem is fixed.

Happy to hear that worked out for you though.

[Joeking]

I like this features lets me close the game quickly. We should definitely keep it this feature for now....

[Chocobits]

Anyone remember waayyy back in the days of Doom 2?

SE does. Boss Key GO!

I remember loading up FFXIV open beta the week before game release, and hoping most of my favorite FFXI features were implemented. I was NOT disappointed.

Mandatory Full-Screen - Check
Video Settings as a separate executable from game client that requires /logout - Check
Game crashes from: Alt+Tab, resolution change, UAC, change in focus - Check
No built-in Windowed mode - Check
Awkward client that doesn't have any built-in configuration settings - Check
Poor usage of hardware resources - Check
Convoluted account signup/character creation process - Check
(As a beta user, I was unfortunately deprived of the intense pleasure of their customer friendly, convenient and easy to manage payment system)

I was banking on those key features, and so was SE, which is why they decided to release the game with them intact.

I don't understand why there's so much criticism aimed at SE. They obviously decided the things that were unpopular in FFXI should remain, and that everything remotely like-able from FFXI should be pruned, to create an entirely new gaming experience. They even added a "three second lag to accomplish any UI/equipment/item/battle related task" feature, to give players considerable time to plan their inventory/battle command procedures.

Kudos SE. Haters gonna hate; just keep on keepin' on and doing what you do best: DirectX programming.

[twinkles]

I don't understand why there's so much criticism aimed at SE. They obviously decided the things that were unpopular in FFXI should remain, and that everything remotely like-able from FFXI should be pruned, to create an entirely new gaming experience. They even added a "three second lag to accomplish any UI/equipment/item/battle related task" feature, to give players considerable time to plan their inventory/battle command procedures.

Kudos SE. Haters gonna hate; just keep on keepin' on and doing what you do best: DirectX programming.

Funny and true all rolled into one brilliant comment, you sir win my day /swoon.

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Arcanist basically sounds like a WoW shaman only with the typical infuriating japanese UI hoops you gotta jump through.

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[Rowyne]

I remember loading up FFXIV open beta the week before game release, and hoping most of my favorite FFXI features were implemented. I was NOT disappointed.

Mandatory Full-Screen - Check
Video Settings as a separate executable from game client that requires /logout - Check
Game crashes from: Alt+Tab, resolution change, UAC, change in focus - Check
No built-in Windowed mode - Check
Awkward client that doesn't have any built-in configuration settings - Check
Poor usage of hardware resources - Check
Convoluted account signup/character creation process - Check
(As a beta user, I was unfortunately deprived of the intense pleasure of their customer friendly, convenient and easy to manage payment system)

I was banking on those key features, and so was SE, which is why they decided to release the game with them intact.

I don't understand why there's so much criticism aimed at SE. They obviously decided the things that were unpopular in FFXI should remain, and that everything remotely like-able from FFXI should be pruned, to create an entirely new gaming experience. They even added a "three second lag to accomplish any UI/equipment/item/battle related task" feature, to give players considerable time to plan their inventory/battle command procedures.

Kudos SE. Haters gonna hate; just keep on keepin' on and doing what you do best: DirectX programming.

LOL! Best use of sarcasm ever.

It's reasons like this we shouldn't just be quiet and find 3rd party workarounds. How else is SE going to realize this isn't acceptable programming until we point it out? Obviously they have no idea, or else they would have improved upon these glaring issues leftover from FFXI.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

LOL! Best use of sarcasm ever.

It's reasons like this we shouldn't just be quiet and find 3rd party workarounds. How else is SE going to realize this isn't acceptable programming until we point it out? Obviously they have no idea, or else they would have improved upon these glaring issues leftover from FFXI.

I am not saying be quite about it and ignore it, report it (as it has been done enough that the deves have mentioned it) and then temp fix it yourself until SE fixes it on their end, instead of bitching on the forums about it.

[Neptune]

really? your really going to act like this? wow you sure are special........

again like I said in my above post... it is an easy fix, look up sharpkeys in google, download it, and use it to disable the windows keys, it is a very easy proccess, and if you can not do that....well...sorry.

The thing is what are you going to do next, disable alt-tab? Why don't you just advise everyone to disable all 3 or 4 systems in Windows 7 so they don't accidentally hit a button on the keyboard that CRASHES THE GAME. I'm good; as I have said. Newcomers can't be expected to go through all this technicality to get the game running. They wouldn't even think of coming onto the forums.

I like this features lets me close the game quickly. We should definitely keep it this feature for now....

lol.. sad, but true.

Anyone remember waayyy back in the days of Doom 2?

SE does. Boss Key GO!

I remember loading up FFXIV open beta the week before game release, and hoping most of my favorite FFXI features were implemented. I was NOT disappointed.

Mandatory Full-Screen - Check
Video Settings as a separate executable from game client that requires /logout - Check
Game crashes from: Alt+Tab, resolution change, UAC, change in focus - Check
No built-in Windowed mode - Check
Awkward client that doesn't have any built-in configuration settings - Check
Poor usage of hardware resources - Check
Convoluted account signup/character creation process - Check
(As a beta user, I was unfortunately deprived of the intense pleasure of their customer friendly, convenient and easy to manage payment system)

I was banking on those key features, and so was SE, which is why they decided to release the game with them intact.

I don't understand why there's so much criticism aimed at SE. They obviously decided the things that were unpopular in FFXI should remain, and that everything remotely like-able from FFXI should be pruned, to create an entirely new gaming experience. They even added a "three second lag to accomplish any UI/equipment/item/battle related task" feature, to give players considerable time to plan their inventory/battle command procedures.

Kudos SE. Haters gonna hate; just keep on keepin' on and doing what you do best: DirectX programming.

lmao. Great post. Yeah doom and doom 2 had separate configs. I see SE has learned well. Excellent first post sir. Looking forward to more of your work in the future.

Funny and true all rolled into one brilliant comment, you sir win my day /swoon.

Taken from a post on my LS site- you will enjoy the humor
Arcanist basically sounds like a WoW shaman only with the typical infuriating japanese UI hoops you gotta jump through.

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lol'd hard @ that.

I am not saying be quite about it and ignore it, report it (as it has been done enough that the deves have mentioned it) and then temp fix it yourself until SE fixes it on their end, instead of bitching on the forums about it.

Perhaps you are just unclear as to the purpose of this thread. I created a bug report because no other bug report had been submitted. Then a forum moderator moved it onto this forum for general discussion. It's reasonable to expect quality software that doesn't crash when you press a button on the keyboard.