Why don't they realise yet? Stat-based combat systems aren't fun!

[Vesperia]

Undeniably, the worst aspect of both WoW and FFXI is the "combat". Sure both games are really lame in almost every other respect too, but their combat, gosh! - the combat in particular sucks more than anything. It sucks enough to deserve notable mention all by itself. As you can very well see!

The problem with games like FFXI and WoW is that they both rely on the "stats" approach to combat. Basically instead of fighting, all you're doing is trying to rebalance mathematical equations. For example, if you're not busy trying to manage an invisible enmity calculator, you are trying to manage a visible health bar instead. It's so tedious.

It's no wonder UI add-ons are so prevalent in WoW. After all, the whole game is a UI practically. And i bet if FFXI had allowed it, the game would have ended up exactly the same.

How can you tell me that this is fun?

I'd rather fill, empty, and refill a bucket of water every so often. It's probably just as exhilirating and obviously founded on the exact same principles.

Or perhaps I could read the labels on a shampoo bottle instead. That's the same thing again. "Rinse and Repeat".

[SuzakuCMX]

I like stat based combat :X I find it fun.

[Aramil]

I disagree about the stat based combat being not fun but I agree about the "rinse and repeat" problem.

Personally, i find that if there's a lot of options and a need to use them, stat based or not, it'll be fun. At the opposite doing the same thing again and again can get boring.

In a stat based combat, if you have to pay attention to what the enemy do and use your skills accordingly, I think it's interesting. However if all you need to do is attack, attack,.... and heal once in awhile, the repetition will eventually get boring.

But it's the same for an action based combat system. when you have to block, dodge, counter, take position in account, etc, I find it interesting. When all you need to do is attack, attack.. or repeat a pattern like wait :"for the enemy to attack, jump to the left, attack" then it get boring after awhile too.

[MeowyWowie]

Hmm.. call me crazy, but I vaguely remember stats being a hallmark of RPGs throughout the years. And that's what this is, isn't it? The "MMO" before the "RPG" does not change that. Perhaps you are in the wrong genre. Mortal Combat, Call of Duty and <insert any non RPG here> are that way ------->

[Mack]

I like stat based combat :X I find it fun.

Same. I also like action based combat system, but there are different games for those.

[Neptune]

Sadly the true battle experience will not be fulfilled in Final Fantasy XIV. For now, we have Demon's Souls, and Dark Souls coming up.

[Mack]

Sadly the true battle experience will not be fulfilled in Final Fantasy XIV. For now, we have Demon's Souls, and Dark Souls coming up.

Can't wait for Dark Souls looks insane!

[Betelgeuzah]

The whole franchise is nothing but stat-based games. You do not look for a Final Fantasy game if you want something different.

Did this honestly come as a surprise to you? Are you shocked every time sun comes up?

[Spellbinder]

The whole franchise is nothing but stat-based games. You do not look for a Final Fantasy game if you want something different.

Did this honestly come as a surprise to you? Are you shocked every time sun comes up?

Just remember who's thread you're posting in.

[MeowyWowie]

Lol don't take this thread seriously. Troll thread is troll thread. Yet we still feed them, haha