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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    yah but with the RNG would your chances of gears up faster running coil and using myth tomes alot faster than CT? you can only run CT till you get a drop then what? nothing lol why spend hours grinding long content when WP is right there? ( for myth tomes)
    yukikaze_yanagi said it best. Even with the myth cap raised it won't increase the rate I can buy decent upgrades very quickly. It still takes weeks. For example it took me three weeks to get my +1. That's three CT items I could have gotten in the meantime as the coil gave me nothing at all. That is still a net increase. Even people in the coil have a use for this gear. Only the rare few of us actually decked out in full iLv90 have no use for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    why would u want ilvl 80 gear vs 90? and also me mismatched ( looks wise) when your trying to progress thru coil? its been done with mismatched ilvl70-ivl90?

    not understanding me


    if you can get ilvl90 gear in or about the same amount of game time maybe just a little bit longer ( maybe one week) why would you spend time on something that does not benefit you as much as running wp and doing your coils,
    Those of us running all content will have better gear quicker until those upgrades actually come. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's as if your primary goal is to just hate hate hate on the new content. Despite the fact many people will gear up quicker due to it. "Omg why get a iLvl 80 piece when I might get a ilv90 next week?" Well for 1 week you were better geared than if you had waited. As far as mismatched looks. Welcome to MMOs. You get a piece and you use it till you get an upgrade. One day you hope all pieces match once you get the best gear. This is how things work. If this is a problem for you then you may be playing the wrong genre. Lastly, you're getting myth for doing the CT. That means it can completely replace some WP runs for your week. It's not like you have to choose WP runs or CT. You can do both and work on myth regardless of which content you choose.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 12-11-2013 at 12:35 AM.

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    Evenstar Wanderlust
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    It is funny how everyone was like "OMG SE GIVE US LOOT LOCK ONLY FOR COIL SO WE CAN HELP OTHERS".

    Now everyone is like "OMG SE WHY YOU GIVE US LOOT LOCKOUT"
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    Solo Playa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    why would u want ilvl 80 gear vs 90? and also me mismatched ( looks wise) when your trying to progress thru coil? its been done with mismatched ilvl70-ivl90?

    not understanding me


    if you can get ilvl90 gear in or about the same amount of game time maybe just a little bit longer ( maybe one week) why would you spend time on something that does not benefit you as much as running wp and doing your coils,
    People will do it for their own reasons, just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it's useless to anyone else. Stop being so narrowed minded.
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    ITT: if you don't agree with the OP you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    snip.
    I don't know who you are but I'll transfer to your server and I will marry you.
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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miiu View Post
    I don't know who you are but I'll transfer to your server and I will marry you.
    Lol. I do :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    It is funny how everyone was like "OMG SE GIVE US LOOT LOCK ONLY FOR COIL SO WE CAN HELP OTHERS".

    Now everyone is like "OMG SE WHY YOU GIVE US LOOT LOCKOUT"
    Coil is different. It gives a lot of personal responsability to everyone, it's the kind of content that requires you to know almost everything about your job and the fight.

    CT, being on DF, will probably be just like CM... you do your job's role (tank, heal or damage) and you're done. Depending on how long it is, some will even see it as a weekly chore and find the fastest way of finishing it, like WP. Not something you'd need help with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Even with the soon myth cap raised, you only get a piece of af in 2 weeks. In these 2 weeks, you'll already have 2 CT pieces. Go figure.
    A piece of AF in 2 weeks? Not really.

    375 x 5
    495 x 3
    825 x 2
    900 x 1

    It takes roughly 14 weeks to get 11 (12 for PLD) slots filled with ilvl90 Mythos items... or 12 weeks to fill 10 slots (if you don't get relic+1 and go for the Extreme Primal weapon). Only the body and legs take 2 weeks to get. You can get an accessorie each week and get a 495 piece (head/hands/feet) the week after (870 for both pieces on the 900 you're making).

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    Personally, I don't mind lockouts on the highest gears (ilvl.90 and up) but having nothing worth to raid in PvE, that's the problem. You will get more ilvl.90 gears per week than you'll get ilvl.80s because there are more ways to obtain the highest available pieces than there are for the "sub-high" ones.... which doesn't really make sense.
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    Last edited by IronSoup; 12-11-2013 at 01:06 AM.
    3 advices to have success in FFXIV:ARR
    Quote Originally Posted by Oompa Loompa
    If you are wise, you'll listen to me:
    - If you're not greedy, you will go far...
    - If you're not spoiled then you will go far...
    - Given good manners, you will go far...

    That way... "You will live in happiness too... like the Oompa Loompa Doopadee Doo".

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    Some people go forever waiting for loot to drop in coil. While they're waiting, they can also try for some CT gear to upgrade their current DL stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSoup View Post
    ....


    Personally, I don't mind lockouts on the highest gears (ilvl.90 and up) but having nothing worth to raid in PvE, that's the problem. You will get more ilvl.90 gears per week than you'll get ilvl.80s because there are more ways to obtain the highest available pieces than there are for the "sub-high" ones.... which doesn't really make sense.
    This. compound that with the fact that loot will still be based around the RNG and probably still the same % chance of dropping as coil. If you have no luck getting loot in coil how long a week are you going to farm for a specific piece of gear in CT... or how long will you static run it with you to help ur chances... then how pissed will you be if u DF it and a random gets the drop you have been farming for all week. So, farming CT every night all night for one piece of gear how does that make you less hardcore then the guys logging in monday clearing 1-5 then logging out for the week.
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