Turn 2 "easy mode", disables every mechanic in the fight

[SarcasmMisser]

To those that say "you are gimping yourself for future turns," know that in a few months time, we will all - even you - be facerolling Twintania using some as-of-yet undiscovered zerg strat.

Twintania won't be facerolled until more turns of coil comes out, and only then is 1-5 "outdated" content. If you have no aspirations of clearing T5 as it stands right now that's fine but don't speak for the whole player base.

As already pointed out the faceroll is actually slower than the vanilla strat, so it serves no purpose other than making the fight easier mechanics wise and it's really stupid to compare it to WP runs. If you want to compare coil to WP compare turn 3 which most people run though (myself included) as there is no point to fighting the enemies. For people who are mastering the T5 mechanics the idea of having to skip mechanics on ADS is just really sad.

[Hik0]

Why is FFXIV community so obsessed with speed?

because they love crying when they have finished the weekly content after 2hours and have nothing else to do

[Tadacho]

Twintania won't be facerolled until more turns of coil comes out, and only then is 1-5 "outdated" content.

Hence "in a few months time".

If you have no aspirations of clearing T5 as it stands right now that's fine but don't speak for the whole player base.

I have every intention and have already attempted. Practise what you preach and don't speak for me.

it serves no purpose other than making the fight easier mechanics wise and it's really stupid to compare it to WP runs.

In a WP SR you skip mobs and lock them out of boss fights. Not only is this skipping mechanics but this is a more direct exploit than the idea of waiting for a boss enemy to enter its soft-enrage mode, which you are able to survive because you specifically created a party setup beforehand. That is not an exploit. It is a strategy.

[AjoraOak]

It's a disgusting strat for an already very easy fight. SE will probably fix it and label it as a fight being done in a manner that was unintended, enjoy it while you can.

Also, when did coil become outdated? lol.

[Tadacho]

It's a disgusting strat for an already very easy fight. SE will probably fix it and label it as a fight being done in a manner that was unintended, enjoy it while you can.

Also, when did coil become outdated? lol.

Well I'm referring to turns 1 and 2 really, seen as how most people here talk about how easy it is and everyone is pretty much working on turns 4 and 5. It isn't outdated persay, but turn 2 has definitely matured, proven in the fact that it can now be facerolled with the appropriate gear.

If it isn't outdated now anyway, it most definitely will be in a month's time and this will be a complete non issue. It is the same story with every other speed run/skip mechanics strat.

inb4 this strat is slower than passing rot -- the point is, it can still only be achieved by groups that are over-geared, seen as it requires high numbers for healing and dps. In this sense it is no different to a speed run, and skipping mobs. Locking mobs out of a boss fight is a bigger exploit than this BY FAR, and yet we ALL do it.

[Battlewrench]

In my opinion its not an exploit and a good strategy. I think SE will end up fixing the rage mode because its not how they want the fight to work but I almost wish they wouldn't because it allows people to bring two melee DPS instead of the one for LB. Finding a PUG coil group as a melee can sometimes suck. If anything though its SE's fault for making an easy rage mode, not anyones for doing the easiest method.

[Tadacho]

Apologies for the double post;

I think SE will end up fixing the rage mode because its not how they want the fight to work

Its enrage ability deals around 2500 damage to me, a BLM, who has 3700 HP. SE is fully aware of 1. the HP of the players and 2. the damage this ability does. Why are people assuming that this ability is supposed to oneshot us all? SE know how to do that. They do it in all the primal fights.

It doesn't oneshot us. It is survivable. Which means we can recover from it and continue fighting and defeat ADS assuming we are geared and skilled enough.

Not all enrages are designed to wipe a party. http://wowpedia.org/Enrage_(mechanic) This could be considered a Hard Frenzy, as opposed to Enrage, which simply applies extra stress to healing in an attempt to end the fight for groups that cannot handle it.

[LiadansWhisper]

Not all enrages are designed to wipe a party. http://wowpedia.org/Enrage_(mechanic) This could be considered a Hard Frenzy, as opposed to Enrage, which simply applies extra stress to healing in an attempt to end the fight for groups that cannot handle it.

It's basically a "Soft Enrage," with the end of the fight coming when your healers run out of mana or drop.

[Gao]

It's not an exploit its a poorly design mechanic... And for those who said they didn't intend on players using that then that's a sad excuse for you to think its a exploits... Hell in one of the letters Yoshida even said something about pld being the preferred tank over war because they didn't "intend" people to find a better way to go around the original design on how players are suppose to fight the bosses... So I guess that makes almost all of us guilty if we didn't use a WAR tank?

[Wizhard]

So an enrage that makes a fight easier. Awesome game design there.