What is exactly is the point of crafting?

[RynaultB]

Who knows, housing can't come quick enough, it'll be good to have actual stuff to make that will be in demand.

As someone stated earlier furniture will be low demand being as its FC housing first and most FCs will have the crafters to make the stuff. So SEs comment saying furniture will be great for crafts is garbage as it will pretty much be useless and by the time they add private housing furniture will probably end up being worthless or not worth the time to make.

[Tupsi]

You crafts, and in future you and your merry friends will craft houses, ship, cakes and more

So..craft now for hopes for 1.5+ years from now? :x

[Gamemako]

You are undervaluing HQ 2-star gear by a lot. Sure it says i70, but it is some of the most useful gear to have in the game. Getting the right materia melds into those gear will fix problems you might have trying to gear out for Turn 5.

Depends on the item. If you take ilvl70 weapons over ilvl80, you're a fool. Some ilvl70 crafted armor can be good, but many are not. 2-star tank gear, for example, is really just used because it takes fewer tomes. The pieces which are well beyond their item level, however, are the accessories, especially since those let you conserve valuable myth tomes for the bigger upgrades.

[Kyana]

this is sickening, leave crafting alone will you guys?

In future will have more then just craft/gathering. give it time. Soon we will be riding on our FC airship, group baking cakes and stuff.

SE had time since 2002 to work on crafting and come up with a good system.
Now we have some neat crafting mechanics, but most things we make are not required or play a minor role in the game.


We'll never be able to fly with airships like we use chocobos. It will probably be like the normal airships, just for free and maybe, if we're lucky, you can go skyfishing while traveling.
Group crafting could be nice, but it won't be anything game breaking, because that would not meet the casual aspect of the game, making it situational.

Honestly, I'm not holding my breath when it comes to crafting unless they enable crafters to make stuff equivalent to AF2/Allagan.
Make it hard, make it bind on pickup, make it a long process, but make it worth the effort.
Currently the effort of obtaining AF2/DL is less than crafting a set of ilvl70 gear.

Oh well, I guess hope is the last thing to die.


PS: I hate forum character limitations ><

[Bluevann]

Ok, but crafting earns us gil you may. Gil to buy what exactly?

Housing~

/10char

[Archulak]

Everyone seems to miss that apparently pvp gear will be crafted unless there are some pvp specific consumables which i doubt.

Patch 2.1 will see the addition of the Wolves’ Den and the Housing system, and the services of crafters will be in high demand for both PvP-related items and furnishings.

[SarcasmMisser]

As someone stated earlier furniture will be low demand being as its FC housing first and most FCs will have the crafters to make the stuff. So SEs comment saying furniture will be great for crafts is garbage as it will pretty much be useless and by the time they add private housing furniture will probably end up being worthless or not worth the time to make.

This but also some jobs will be able to make money, just not the crafters. The gatherers will pick up the increased demand. Every FC has at least someone who can cover a crafting job and at the end of the day crafting is just an intermediary between the raw material and the finished product, and the labor they provide is often provided to FCs for free.

Yoshida needs to realize this, everyone being able to make everything themselves leaves no room for a sellers market. There needs to be some sort of specialization system.

[Feilina]

[...]Yoshida needs to realize this, everyone being able to make everything themselves leaves no room for a sellers market. There needs to be some sort of specialization system.

That system isn't needed.
With the accessablity of gathered items atm it is doable to produce cheap gear. This is needed to gear low level chars. But Square inserted NPC selling gear up to lvl45(?), those NPC have to go at first, supply is cheaply produced by crafters.
HQ Syntheses have to fade by a good percentage. It can not be accepted that HQ is the new NQ. Reduce the HQ chance considering the time already put into leveled classes, around 65-85% seems reasonable to me.

A specialization would do what the job system has done. It would press us in a "more-comfortable-to-balance-for-SE" position and that is not needed too.

They should gather our feedback and provide us their rough plans for the future, no more, no less. And we'll offer our honest feedback to that plans. Feedback should also include compromisses we are willing to do.

[SarcasmMisser]

The problem with introducing some rarity to HQ items is that it's a double edged sword, the increase in value would be offset by the cost of making hq, and from a seller's pov for every HQ they make they will have a lot of NQ that no one wants.

The NPC issue is a valid point, but eventually the amount of people leveling jobs will slow to a trickle so that would dry up anyway.

I suggested specialization because when paired with top level crafts that are actually useful and demanded by the majority of buyers, it ensures there are always buyers as well as sellers in healthy ratios.

[Ri_ri]

That system isn't needed.
With the accessablity of gathered items atm it is doable to produce cheap gear. This is needed to gear low level chars. But Square inserted NPC selling gear up to lvl45(?), those NPC have to go at first, supply is cheaply produced by crafters.

NPCs aren't competition, everything on the market board is cheaper. I don't see how removing them would help anything.

The best things for crafters would be a "WoW-like" system (enchanting, BiS gear coming from dungeon recipes), but mister director doesn't want it to play an important role... the system isn't sustainable at all.