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    Castillan's Avatar
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    Castillan Lionheart
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    What is exactly is the point of crafting?

    I've hit level 50 in all crafts, and I've come to the realisation that it's pretty pointless.

    Here's why:

    1) In the time it takes to level all crafts and gatherings to 50, you can level all combat classes to 50
    2) Almost all HQ 1-star gear is matched or beaten by drops in WP or AK
    3) HQ 1-star gear is outclassed by Darklight gear, except in rare cases with penta-meld
    4) HQ 2-star gear is equalled by Darklight gear. Penta-melded HQ 2-star will generally beat Darklight, however see point 5)
    5) It requires 23 runs of WP/AK to earn enough Phil tomes to buy the materials to make a single piece of 2-star gear (HQ or otherwise). In that time, you will have earned 690-820 Myth times, which is enough to buy Artifact 2 gear, which outclasses penta-melded HQ 2-star gear in almost all scenarios barring a few examples


    Ok, but crafting earns us gil you may. Gil to buy what exactly? All the gear you need you can obtain through dungeons/tomes.

    About the only thing that is of any benefit with crafting is food.

    I guess where I'm going with this is the following.

    Make 1-star NQ gear ilvl 55 (rather than current ilvl 50), and 1-star HQ gear ilvl 60, 2-star NQ gear at least ilvl80, and HQ 2-star gear ilvl 90, and THEN we'd at least have the scenario where it's actually worthwhile to craft anything other than food, and also allow people some form of customisation, rather than all wearing the same Allegan/AF2 gear at end-game.
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    I suppose they don't want it to be so trivial as to be able to craft your own iLV90 at this stage in the game. That, and the best items in the game should be gotten through quests and not the Market Board.

    Eventually new and higher-level recipes will be introduced. You could say that leveling your crafts will prepare you for those.
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    Jack Nightshroud
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorrorStory View Post
    I suppose they don't want it to be so trivial as to be able to craft your own iLV90 at this stage in the game. That, and the best items in the game should be gotten through quests and not the Market Board.

    Eventually new and higher-level recipes will be introduced. You could say that leveling your crafts will prepare you for those.
    They don't want it to be trivial to get the best gear in the game, not trivial like running AK and WP a 1000 times or anything right nothing as trivial as repeating the same two dungeons over and over no....
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    Axidrain Fy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skotie View Post
    They don't want it to be trivial to get the best gear in the game, not trivial like running AK and WP a 1000 times or anything right nothing as trivial as repeating the same two dungeons over and over no....
    crafting will get u the best gear almost instantly. u just have to farm tomes and get the mats. higher level equipments im talking ilvl 90 here have lockouts. if ur able to craft ilevel 90 gear whats the point of going for the dungeon gear? :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axidrain View Post
    crafting will get u the best gear almost instantly. u just have to farm tomes and get the mats. higher level equipments im talking ilvl 90 here have lockouts. if ur able to craft ilevel 90 gear whats the point of going for the dungeon gear? :3
    ...but it doesn't though. It's not instant at all. If you want to (reliably) craft HQ 2-star gear, you have to:


    1) Get your crafting class to 50 (1-2 weeks)
    2) Equip your crafting class with all HQ 1-star class-specific gear (can either buy it which is 200k-ish, or make it, which involves levelling at least 2-3 other classes for another month's work)
    3) Meld a moderate amount of material into said gear (200-500K plus tipping if you don't have class to meld with high enough, or make your own materia)
    4) If you haven't yet levelled gathering classes (2-3 weeks per class) buy the base materials to make your HQ 2-star
    5) Oh, you need tome mats, ok, so let's run WP 12-24 times per items you're making to acquire those, or pay another 350-700K gil

    So, 4-6 weeks have passed now. In that time, I could've earned 1200-1800 myths and be half-kitted out in ilvl90 gear with the rest darklight, and be some 1.2M gil in front, which I could then use to simply buy the very very few HQ 2-star items that surpass AF2/Allegan.
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    Rowdey Macchio
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    Quote Originally Posted by HorrorStory View Post
    I suppose they don't want it to be so trivial as to be able to craft your own iLV90 at this stage in the game. That, and the best items in the game should be gotten through quests and not the Market Board.

    Eventually new and higher-level recipes will be introduced. You could say that leveling your crafts will prepare you for those.
    best items in the game should be obtained through questing ..... that just makes me shudder .. personally i think the best gear in the game should be obtained from killing the hardest encounters in the game .... like RPG's are meant to do
    the fact that u can currently obtain the best gear in the game from a 15 min dungeon speedrun is pathetic and SE should really do some re-hiring cuz of that one
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    Last edited by rowdey1; 12-12-2013 at 12:25 AM.

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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HorrorStory View Post
    I suppose they don't want it to be so trivial as to be able to craft your own iLV90 at this stage in the game. That, and the best items in the game should be gotten through quests and not the Market Board.

    Eventually new and higher-level recipes will be introduced. You could say that leveling your crafts will prepare you for those.
    Well they can make the crafted items non-trade-able too you know.

    OP is right. There is little reason to craft things other than to assist other classes in leveling up. I guess there will be vanity, as you can build the items of the game.
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    Aquel Kuran
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HorrorStory View Post
    I suppose they don't want it to be so trivial as to be able to craft your own iLV90 at this stage in the game. That, and the best items in the game should be gotten through quests and not the Market Board.
    They have introduced crafting materials that drop in mid-level dungeons. These are required to craft some items, they could easily make a percent chance that chests in Coil dropped similar crafting materials for crafting higher level items.

    To make it interesting, have the crafted item just be a shell and add items to the Myth vendor for adding stats (maybe special materia slots) of your choice so you can customize the main stat and secondary stats for the item the way you would like.

    You would have the same concept as today for casuals and raiders, but now you've added some variety.
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    Kuro L'anzce
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    2-star food
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    You can do a lot of money with a crafting class
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