Garuda lore mishap?

[Alice_89th]

Yeah there was a discussion a few pages back about that.

The general concensus is that as long as a person/thing is remembered by enough people + crystals + ascian summoning method = something like a primal.

I believe that the game itself does not call Godd King Moogle Mog a primal.
They do say that people whishing hard enough + a whole bunch of crystals = something will appear.

So the Good King was no primal, but was definitely summoned out of the aether and shaped by the whishes of his followers.

[ErnestoGiovanni]

Wasn't she "forced to eat the flesh of man" whom she protected, because of her motherly nature, but in doing so it made her go mad? I don't know why but this undeniably sticks out in my mind. She doesn't seem to be flesh hungry she seems more bat shiz crazy.

[Skies]

Wait, don't confuse yourselves.
It has been states many times that Midgarsormr is not a primal by any means. A king among dragons, but certainly not a primal

[Enkidoh]

Yeah, and the proof is in his rotting corpse that 15 years later is still entwined around the wreckage of the Agrius in Silvertear Lake where it crashed in 1562 6AE. He hasn't come back to life since.

Compare that to Primals who are immortal beings from the aether, whom can be endlessly resummoned to life no matter how many times they fall, and technically have no body, at least, not a proper living one. They are just an aetheric entity given corporeal form which then shatters. Midgardsormr did not have this ability, and was just a dragon, albeit an immensely powerful one, like the sea monster that attacked the ferry in the original 1.0 Limsa opening.

[godwin]

Yeah, and the proof is in his rotting corpse that 15 years later is still entwined around the wreckage of the Agrius in Silvertear Lake where it crashed in 1562 6AE. He hasn't come back to life since.

Compare that to Primals who are immortal beings from the aether, whom can be endlessly resummoned to life no matter how many times they fall, and technically have no body, at least, not a proper living one. They are just an aetheric entity given corporeal form which then shatters. Midgardsormr did not have this ability, and was just a dragon, albeit an immensely powerful one, like the sea monster that attacked the ferry in the original 1.0 Limsa opening.

That was Leviathan

[Anonymoose]

That was Leviathan

No, that is not Leviathan. It's a sea serpent.

/10characters

[Skies]

Well, Enkidoh, this is spoilers for Coil

But Bahamut still has his body as well, even if split in a bunch of pieces and being slowly repaired

[SolusekRo]

But Bahamut still has his body as well, even if split in a bunch of pieces and being slowly repaired

Ya I seen that on youtube...hvnt made it to Coil yet...but this rises another question, what are the jobs/powers of an elder primal?

Bahamut is a massive dragon that we see destroying everything yet he's in suspended animation slowly healing himself?
Odin just randomly kills whoever he so pleases...

but where is the point??? A test? guardians of some unknown power? remnants of a forgotten time?

[saber_alter]

Well, Enkidoh, this is spoilers for Coil

But Bahamut still has his body as well, even if split in a bunch of pieces and being slowly repaired

correct me if i'm wrong. this is only speculation on my part.

that body is pure aether still, albeit massive. his head is attached to a massive aetheryte cluster which is functioning like a heart, and the rest of his appendages are linked in various places to the over-aspected aetheryte around the ragnarok, which he is using to rebuild himself.


seeing how that bahamut, like odin, is a elder primal: i'm confident that they are capable of feats that trump the abilities of normal primals.

odin periodically resurrects himself with a different appearance, despite not really having any worshipers, and seems to be much more powerful than any primal and gains strength each time he is quelled, despite not having a stable supply of crystals.

bahamut has had a physical form since his sealing by the allagan empire a few thousand years ago. Despite taking massive damage from whatever Luisoix did to him after they both vanished at carteneau (the kind of damage would disrupt a normal primal) he still retains form. elder primals are indeed much more resilient than normal primals, but they are still made from aether still require aether to maintain form.

[Torquil]

Bahamuts continued presence is through artificial means using Allagan technology and has nothing to do with his status as an elder primal.