Diabolos

[Sotek]

I love this idea. It deserves its own thread.

Ask and you shall receive;

You know what would be really awesome?

If when you log in after logging out at your bed, you can randomly get queued into a special Duty Finder group, hopefully seamlessly; you log in and you're in the instance, rather than getting the option to queue, since that would just take the excitement out of it. You and seven other completely random people just wake up in a nightmare together and have to beat Diabolos. Not as a serious event of course, more like what Odin and Behemoth are now (purely for vanity) and a "proper" Diabolos fight can come later like how we're meant to get a proper Odin fight at some point. Since it'd be a nightmare it would have to be quite scary, though I'm not sure how they could achieve that effectively... Dark Souls level punishment and if you die you get kicked out? Heck, rather than an instance like the Primals, a mini dungeon filled with jump scares and things like the Tonberry Stalkers in Wanderer's Palace? If you cannot get raised and you just get kicked out it'd be all the more scary if people don't get replaced... One by one you get picked off... Can you reach the end?

Would be all the more epic if they don't even mention it at all and people just stumble across the fight at random, no update notes or anything, you just log in one day and "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS OHMAHGAWD T_T". Even though I generally hate the Duty Finder, I'd actually find being thrown into something like this, purely at random, to be a lot of fun. They'd have to give it some tangible rewards though, otherwise people will just leave... Guess they could always just make it soloable, though that loses some of the fun... It'd make a pretty damn good trailer for a proper Diabolos fight though... Update 2.x secretly adds this and you get a sneak peak of Diabolos at the end if you beat it, then update 2.x+1 adds Diabolos...

They could even reuse the same system for events, like Halloween. Imaging doing the regular Halloween quest, logging out in your Inn, then logging on the next day and you're trapped in a Dynamis like version of Eorzea until you finish the real Halloween event... Fill it with various monsters from quests you've completed and actually make it nightmarish (they're all Lv.99), you can either run back to your bed and wake up, or try and finish the quest.

It's December and my mind has just reached Halloween, what's up with that?

[Hulan]

I personally like the idea. That being said, I suspect the biggest concern would be how quite often people want to just log on and get started with whatever they wanted to do right away. In 1.0, it wasn't really a consideration, since the login events were only CSs and skip-able [if you hate surprises and story telling].

Going with it though, you wouldn't have to make it "random" per-se. One solution to the duty finder problem would be to only initialize the event if 7 other people of the appropriate job log in at the same time. That would inject a random factor, make it rare, and remove the necessity for a duty finder wait time. You could also make it so that someone can "wake up" before the instance starts, breaking the event for everyone and giving something like a message "You feel like you had a nightmare, but cannot remember it."

[Naraku_Diabolos]

Wouldn't the lore for Diabolos be different for this game? Like not similar to FFXI.

[Kule]

nice idea I also think it would be cool to have a 'mysterious voice' hidden somewhere in the world that crafts you amazing weapons/gear. FFIX reference.

[Tupsi]

nice idea I also think it would be cool to have a 'mysterious voice' hidden somewhere in the world that crafts you amazing weapons/gear. FFIX reference.

Well to be fair, that turned out to be Hades.

[Sotek]

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Depends how it's done, though I suppose an option to leave should be there.

Rather than a proper fight, I'm actually leaning more towards a short event made to confuse and terrify players. There would be no leaving, no combat so even DoL/DoH could end up there, just a dark path you walk down because there is no other direction. As you walk down it, you get attacked similar to how the Tonberries in Wanderer's Palace and the Gigas in Copperbell work (jumping out of walls), and if you die you wake up. If you manage to get to the end though, then you get to be killed by Diabolos.

I wonder what music could play during it... I'm sure something new would be great, but I found the version of Answers that played during the final days of 1.0 to be quite effective at setting the atmosphere...

Wouldn't the lore for Diabolos be different for this game? Like not similar to FFXI.

Well, the lore would be different; he'd be a Primal of Nightmares, not a Terrastrial Avatar of Nightmares. He'd keep the same theme, but what other theme are they going to give him?

[Atamos]

I remember in 1.0 we had a nightmare, the first time I saw it I was like, what's going on !? o_ô

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft8fqSDVnuQ

[Kule]

Well to be fair, that turned out to be Hades.

Yes I know.. what's your point? I think it's nice to have hidden/ rare events in the world that don't even show up in patch notes until players stumble upon it.