Enough complaining already

[Takeshi_Eiketsu]

/begin White Knight rant

Ok, Ive started turning a deaf ear and blind eye to those ranting that "1.18 is the last straw"(referenced due to popularity). Seriously now...The games currently free, you complain about wasting your time and yada yada yada complaint complaint complaint /copy and paste other peoples rants because Im not original.


I play FFXIV maybe 2-3 times a week because I do enjoy it...yes it needs WORK still, but its free...and SO I DONT BURN MYSELF OUT, I USE THE MONEY I WOULD BE SPENDING ON FFXIV ON ANOTHER MMO. That way I dont pull my hair out and prematurely age over FREAKING OUT over an MMO thats make strides since launch...so honestly lay off...they are working on it.

Suggestion...get a second hobby so your life doesnt revolve around FFXIV and its make it or break it patches.

/end White Knight rant

[Wynn]

In before /wallofflame

While the game is currently free, the point is to get it to a state where it actually warrants a game subscription. In this regard, player feedback is quite literally gold to SquareEnix right about now.

[Takeshi_Eiketsu]

I agree completely! but posting ultimatums isnt constructive its a waste of time and space.

[Takeshi_Eiketsu]

Ive been patient since day one, and have agreed with all changes thus far, so Im satisfied with the progress...changes dont happen over night, and Im all for making suggestions.

[Vanguard319]

In before /wallofflame

While the game is currently free, the point is to get it to a state where it actually warrants a game subscription. In this regard, player feedback is quite literally gold to SquareEnix right about now.

It's not as valuable as you think when most of this feedback is utter garbage being spouted by forum trolls. I'm not saying that SE isn't getting good feedback and ideas from the forums, but they have to sift through a lot of trash threads for every serious thread posted.

[Mireille]

In before /wallofflame

While the game is currently free, the point is to get it to a state where it actually warrants a game subscription. In this regard, player feedback is quite literally gold to SquareEnix right about now.

I think the problem being referred to isn't the feedback. I think the 'last straw post' was feedback though, and started a generally constructive conversation. That said there were some rage posts mixed in. I've sort of divided up the rage complaints I've seen in the forums into three groups at this point.

1) Players who have genuinely tried the game, and have earned the right to comment on what they don't like even if I don't agree with them. Sometimes those posters end up griping about the same things post after post and only really need to say it once, but SE needs the negative feedback along with the positive. Players who like the game shouldn't take this personally.

2) People who hate SE and the FF franchise and want this game to cause Final Fantasy along with the entire company to go down in an inferno. As far as I am concerned if you hate SE/FF that much, and you are burning away the precious hours of your life posting it in the SE forums, you are deranged. Its a video game company, move on....

3) The people who work for game X and post 'this game sucks come play game X.' Even if you aren't on the payroll you have taken it upon yourself to advertize for their company and that makes your opinion about this game a bit suspect. Plus it wouldn't surprise me if some of those posts are being made by people who are on the payroll of SE's competitors, and are shilling some too weak WoW clone that isn't intended to see more than one development cycle before it goes free to play. If they have to advertize their product using someone else's resources then that should tell you all you need to know about that product. It should also tell you they are afraid of what this game will do to their profit margins.

[Renshi]

We can:

1. Stop complaining about low priority sh*t and wondering what will come, and use these forums for what they're built for: Making Suggestions;

2. Continue complaining about low priority sh*t like little bunnies wanting for more carrots

Which one will be more constructive? You'll be the judge.

[Anty]

We can:

1. Stop complaining about low priority sh*t and wondering what will come, and use these forums for what they're built for: Making Suggestions;

2. Continue complaining about low priority sh*t like little bunnies wanting for more carrots

Which one will be more constructive? You'll be the judge.

i think even the biggest "troll" made a lot of good and plenty suggestions. But the lack of answers doenst really encourage someone to add even more input... does it? its their job in the end and looking at their community interaction, 80-90% of all suggestions are not even discussed... So why bother? The players want to be entertained... And they pay for it...
They (the players) already "worked" much more then what should be needed to make a successeful mmo.

[Renshi]

i think even the biggest "troll" made a lot of good and plenty suggestions. But the lack of answers doenst really encourage someone to add even more input... does it? its their job in the end and looking at their community interaction, 80-90% of all suggestions are not even discussed... So why bother? The players want to be entertained... And they pay for it...
They (the players) already "worked" much more then what should be needed to make a successeful mmo.

Well, better than asking for nothing, rite?
We can't ask them to tell us if our ideas are garbage. They just have to not post in similar threads where Yoshi-P doesn't like the suggestion. If he likes it, Devs will post in that thread.
We can't decide what Yoshi-P wants to take as a good suggestion. We are no one to decide that. We can just fortify our suggestion.