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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Yeah, like a Bloodletter macro: making an already simple class even more faceroll. You're right. Having to pay attention to procs and press a different button is super annoying. Can't I just keep spamming 1 and have macros sort it all out for me?
    *sigh* do you even BLM? You actually lower your dps by waiting for every firestarter proc. so many times ive gotten firestarter to proc twice before actually being able to use it. It makes me sad.
    same with thundercloud really but then again im just super happy i even got a proc on it
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    As an aside, does any other BLM completely flip out when things line up perfectly: 1) start casting fire, 2) get thundercloud, 3) cast thunder3 as you register a firestarter, 4) roll out of your chair in excitement and miss a landslide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaking55 View Post
    *sigh* do you even BLM? You actually lower your dps by waiting for every firestarter proc. so many times ive gotten firestarter to proc twice before actually being able to use it. It makes me sad.
    same with thundercloud really but then again im just super happy i even got a proc on it
    So the obvious solution is to completely automate the class? Whats needed is having the proc activate on cast, rather than on hit. What we dont need is a macro that automatically casts Thunder 3 and Fire 3 for you on procs, completely negating any need to pay attention or even press a different button, but I guess I'm a rocket scientist because I dont find my BLM (my main) hard to play? We're already one of the most powerful yet faceroll classes in the game. "SQUARE ENIX! PLEASE MAKE FIRESTARTER AND THUNDERCLOUD AUTOMATIC SO I DONT HAVE TO SWITCH TO PRESSING A DIFFERENT BUTTONZ PLZ!"
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    Last edited by BlueMage; 12-11-2013 at 11:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    So the obvious solution is to completely automate the class? Whats needed is having the proc activate on cast, rather than on hit. What we dont need is a macro that automatically casts Thunder 3 and Fire 3 for you on procs, completely negating any need to pay attention or even press a different button, but I guess I'm a rocket scientist because I dont find my BLM (my main) hard to play? We're already one of the most powerful yet faceroll classes in the game. "SQUARE ENIX! PLEASE MAKE FIRESTARTER AND THUNDERCLOUD AUTOMATIC SO I DONT HAVE TO SWITCH TO PRESSING A DIFFERENT BUTTONZ PLZ!"
    to do that wouldnt you have to take firestarter off the global cooldown? think about the implications of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaking55 View Post
    *sigh* do you even BLM? You actually lower your dps by waiting for every firestarter proc. so many times ive gotten firestarter to proc twice before actually being able to use it. It makes me sad.
    same with thundercloud really but then again im just super happy i even got a proc on it
    It's hard for me to believe that it would lower your dps by any significant amount just by waiting the split second it takes in-between Fire1 casts.

    But that aside, sometimes Fire Starter will proc twice back to back. So you run the risk of wasting one if you continue casting just like you say. So that's why I think it's best just to wait a tiny bit to be sure.

    Agree with you about thunder. The proc on that thing is way too rare. It needs some serious love.
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    Last edited by Dale; 12-12-2013 at 04:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    It's hard for me to believe that it would lower your dps by any significant amount just by waiting the split second it takes in-between Fire1 casts.

    But that aside, sometimes Fire Starter will proc twice back to back. So you run the risk of wasting one if you continue casting just like you say. So that's why I think it's best just to wait a tiny bit to be sure.

    Agree with you about thunder. The proc on that thing is way too rare. It needs some serious love.
    That split second of waiting is about the time it takes for wholly another fire1 cast. Don't think of it as losing a firestarter as much as gaining an extra fire1, because that's what is actually happening.
    I think thunder feels about right, especially since it's a much more passive proc than firestarter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    That split second of waiting is about the time it takes for wholly another fire1 cast. Don't think of it as losing a firestarter as much as gaining an extra fire1, because that's what is actually happening.
    I think thunder feels about right, especially since it's a much more passive proc than firestarter.
    You must have some insane spell speed if you can throw out a fire1 in the tiny amount of time it takes for firestarter to proc in between casts. One of those things I would have to see to believe.
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