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  1. #11
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Since with macros you can't pre activate a skill it would still be better to just use Fire 3 on proc. Over time you would lose more damage waiting for the GCD to finish before using your macro compared to if you miss a proc.
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    Pika Chu
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    Moogle
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Since with macros you can't pre activate a skill it would still be better to just use Fire 3 on proc. Over time you would lose more damage waiting for the GCD to finish before using your macro compared to if you miss a proc.
    Yes its still better to do it manually as the /wait times only use .5 increments, so spells speed is lost with macros where cast times are involved
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    Lala Swell
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Do not macro this. Ever. You will be severely gimping your DPS. Further, as was pointed out earlier, you can't really macro this appropriately because there's no way to check if you have a proc. You would have to do this with a third-party program and that would be against the ToS.
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    Lala Swell - Death and Taxes
    You can lead a man to fish in water, but you should never throw two or more birds in a glass house... or something like that

  4. #14
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    Okie Smokie
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Thx for the replies guess i'll stick with missing a proc cause like someone said if you wait to see if you proc you lose dps cause can already have another fire landing! Anyways thx again and if anyone knows the soft caps for blm and whm i am trying to find info on them!
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    Lala Swell
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    Quote Originally Posted by okie View Post
    Thx for the replies guess i'll stick with missing a proc cause like someone said if you wait to see if you proc you lose dps cause can already have another fire landing! Anyways thx again and if anyone knows the soft caps for blm and whm i am trying to find info on them!
    Check out my thread called The Black Mage Rotations. I cover Firestarter procs therein. For Firestarter, don't wait and see if you are going to get one. Just keep right on casting and use the Firestarter proc after your next spell (or after a few spells if you're at the end of the Fire I portion of your rotation).
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    Lala Swell - Death and Taxes
    You can lead a man to fish in water, but you should never throw two or more birds in a glass house... or something like that

  6. #16
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    Mose Vial
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Yeah, like a Bloodletter macro: making an already simple class even more faceroll. You're right. Having to pay attention to procs and press a different button is super annoying. Can't I just keep spamming 1 and have macros sort it all out for me?
    *sigh* do you even BLM? You actually lower your dps by waiting for every firestarter proc. so many times ive gotten firestarter to proc twice before actually being able to use it. It makes me sad.
    same with thundercloud really but then again im just super happy i even got a proc on it
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  7. #17
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    As an aside, does any other BLM completely flip out when things line up perfectly: 1) start casting fire, 2) get thundercloud, 3) cast thunder3 as you register a firestarter, 4) roll out of your chair in excitement and miss a landslide
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    Mose Vial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    As an aside, does any other BLM completely flip out when things line up perfectly: 1) start casting fire, 2) get thundercloud, 3) cast thunder3 as you register a firestarter, 4) roll out of your chair in excitement and miss a landslide
    I'm super happy and flip out when thundercloud procs chain themselves back to back lol
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  9. #19
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Devaking55 View Post
    *sigh* do you even BLM? You actually lower your dps by waiting for every firestarter proc. so many times ive gotten firestarter to proc twice before actually being able to use it. It makes me sad.
    same with thundercloud really but then again im just super happy i even got a proc on it
    So the obvious solution is to completely automate the class? Whats needed is having the proc activate on cast, rather than on hit. What we dont need is a macro that automatically casts Thunder 3 and Fire 3 for you on procs, completely negating any need to pay attention or even press a different button, but I guess I'm a rocket scientist because I dont find my BLM (my main) hard to play? We're already one of the most powerful yet faceroll classes in the game. "SQUARE ENIX! PLEASE MAKE FIRESTARTER AND THUNDERCLOUD AUTOMATIC SO I DONT HAVE TO SWITCH TO PRESSING A DIFFERENT BUTTONZ PLZ!"
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    Last edited by BlueMage; 12-11-2013 at 11:47 AM.

  10. #20
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    Mose Vial
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    So the obvious solution is to completely automate the class? Whats needed is having the proc activate on cast, rather than on hit. What we dont need is a macro that automatically casts Thunder 3 and Fire 3 for you on procs, completely negating any need to pay attention or even press a different button, but I guess I'm a rocket scientist because I dont find my BLM (my main) hard to play? We're already one of the most powerful yet faceroll classes in the game. "SQUARE ENIX! PLEASE MAKE FIRESTARTER AND THUNDERCLOUD AUTOMATIC SO I DONT HAVE TO SWITCH TO PRESSING A DIFFERENT BUTTONZ PLZ!"
    to do that wouldnt you have to take firestarter off the global cooldown? think about the implications of that.
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