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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Yah it does seem a little silly though maybe they have a plan that they simply haven't talked about yet for the rest of the Turn 5 gear. We'll have to see. BiS is also relative btw. An armor slot where the myth tome gear and allagan gear simply swap say accuracy for skill speed would have the accuracy piece usually considered BiS but the right gear combination on say DRG can blow you past the Turn 5 accuracy cap making it arguably better to use the skill speed piece.
    I'm pretty sure SE has learned their lesson from FFXI. The relic +1 weapon will be used to obtain a weapon that's higher than ilvl 95 in the future which will probably be so difficult that you HAVE to have the Allagan weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE has learned their lesson from FFXI. The relic +1 weapon will be used to obtain a weapon that's higher than ilvl 95 in the future which will probably be so difficult that you HAVE to have the Allagan weapon.
    I understand needing the weapon for progression, but again, that doesn't explain why they don't move other drops to earlier turns or raise those items as well since the difficulty to obtain them is the same as the difficulty to obtain the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    I understand needing the weapon for progression, but again, that doesn't explain why they don't move other drops to earlier turns or raise those items as well since the difficulty to obtain them is the same as the difficulty to obtain the weapon.
    Because there is no need to raise them since there is nothing harder than Coil Turn 5, even in 2.1. 2.1 is basically a catch-up patch that is filler content that fills in the gap between Titan HM and Coil. The only reason why they are upgrading the Allagan weapon is to make it so people will want to continue to do Turn 5, especially for those jobs where the Best in Slot are all AF+1 gears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE has learned their lesson from FFXI. The relic +1 weapon will be used to obtain a weapon that's higher than ilvl 95 in the future which will probably be so difficult that you HAVE to have the Allagan weapon.
    Ya...plus they stated that in the future we will be upgrading relics into 'Legendary' weapons eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE has learned their lesson from FFXI. The relic +1 weapon will be used to obtain a weapon that's higher than ilvl 95 in the future which will probably be so difficult that you HAVE to have the Allagan weapon.
    Yoshi didn't play XI and it's pretty apparent with some features missing from ARR's base version

    Quote Originally Posted by diulalasing View Post
    The only way to explain this is beating Titan allows you to unlock also a ilvl 80 weapon which is upgradable to ilvl 90

    But yes, Moogle should have been ilvl 70...
    Actually, Moogle should be i80 considering the fight is much more difficult/complex (in a sense) than say Garuda. They came before in 1.0 but their weapons were actually better than a few Garuda weapons depending on your present setup. In ARR they also were better than Garuda's for many, so raising to i80 makes perfect sense, though I speak as a legacy player, I don't think Cerberus is a legacy world so you likely haven't gotten ARR experience with the weapon vs current primals (with I believe Titan's being better depending on your focus.)
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 12-09-2013 at 10:05 PM.