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  1. #31
    Player
    Roris's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/08/31
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    投稿
    976
    Character
    Rori Uguu
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    裁縫師 Lv 80
    That would take work, precious work that could go into making better content like more minions, mounts, gear and monster recolors for dungeons instead.
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  2. #32
    Player
    Ri_ri's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/13
    投稿
    959
    Character
    Kaguya Houraisan
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    呪術士 Lv 61
    Quote 引用元:Velox 投稿を閲覧
    I think the LB should emphasize SE's vision of Bard being a utility class. As lurkios stated above, playing off their song ability would be ideal. Since the usefulness has to be on par with the level of damage the melee LB can output (so people have an option), I suggest the LBs be songs with amazing effects.

    Level 1: doubles MP/TP regen rate for X seconds
    Level 2: instantly restores everyone's MP/TP to full
    Level 3: instantly restores everyone's MP/TP and all party member's skills cost 0 MP/TP for X seconds

    These aren't balanced obviously, but are merely suggestions to form a base
    Bard is already an extremely useful class (interrupts, ranged DPS, songs), if they were able to make up for the damage loss of Final Heaven, melee wouldn't have a chance.

    You already need at least one for all parties... it's bad enough. This is why I'm against giving Bards a different LB.
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  3. #33
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/24
    投稿
    608
    Character
    Kraiden Draxenian
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:EdwinLi 投稿を閲覧
    Must I say more? We need a Range DD Limit Break and we got a nice skill going to a boss that can serve as a Range Limit Break.

    Hey guys, Bards never get invited to groups, so we need to give them a powerful damage LB to help them out!
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  4. #34
    Player
    EdwinLi's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    4,882
    Character
    Chloe Li
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    機工士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Versiroth 投稿を閲覧
    Hey guys, Bards never get invited to groups, so we need to give them a powerful damage LB to help them out!
    I swear a lot of people in this forum are very single minded or they just enjoy making up things about what the opening post is about because they have a strange sense of wild imagination.

    again for the last time.....

    Quote 引用元:EdwinLi 投稿を閲覧
    You people and your assumptions.

    I'm not even asking for Range LB to be implamented now. I never mentioned any about adding the Range Limit Break now in my opening post.

    I'm asking for them to make this Skill a Range LB when they release the Range LB. (Most likely once Musketeer or other Range class/jobs are released if they feel like it)
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  5. #35
    Player
    Thunderz's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/09/12
    投稿
    421
    Character
    Thunderz Canadia
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    Give bard a Buff LB instead of healing how about that

    you know since its a support job and all
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  6. #36
    Player
    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/08/19
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    385
    Character
    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    吟遊詩人 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Eidolon 投稿を閲覧
    I believe you misunderstood my post. I stated that it has been relegated to being a DPS with some utility, yet it is treated as a pure-support class.Though I was perhaps unclear - It has been relegated to being a DPS with some utility [By Square Enix], yet it is treated as a pure-support class [by the Limit Break system.] That should clear up my thoughts on the matter a little for you.

    And I agree. I play a melee DPS and rarely die, but I see 9/10 melee DPS (particularly monk) dying to rather simple mechanics. I've also seen bards try to claim their job is 'harder at a range', which just makes me laugh. Hard.
    Have you lvld brd to 50 and taken it into endgame to base that on?
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  7. #37
    Player
    Dhex's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    投稿
    1,006
    Character
    Jadus Salaheem
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 90
    If BRD got it's own LB I think it should summon a giant spoon to smack the mob with.

    Jussayin'
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  8. #38
    Player
    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/08/19
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    385
    Character
    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    吟遊詩人 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:cearka 投稿を閲覧
    I miss the awesome invidual class 2hr cooldowns of ffxi
    I think you're the only one then because I recall we would enter abyssea mis and ppl would say if you want to reset your 2 hr get a certain drop here and use it for insta reset. Don't have to rely on the dice for a reset.
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  9. #39
    Player
    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/08/19
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    385
    Character
    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    吟遊詩人 Lv 80
    I'd like to know out of curiosity and nothing more how many ppl who keep saying brd is is just support have actually lvld it to 50 and taken it into endgame content. If you haven't touched the class at all and are basing it on ffxi then lvl it first then open your mouth and say what you have to say but with something to back it up. Atm, brd is a hybrid dps with a crappy LB I'll agree to that, something like a LB to buff the rest of the party on skills is not a bad idea at all I would prefer it actually to what brds have now. How many brds have you asked play brd because atm it's the only ranged pew pew out there? How many would love to branch out into pure dps like ranger?
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  10. #40
    Player
    Yoruichi4478's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/08/19
    Location
    Uldah
    投稿
    385
    Character
    Kya Purrcy
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    吟遊詩人 Lv 80
    contd:

    Brds are doing the best they can with what they have atm, but let's see how many will migrate to maining Ranger instead when and if that comes about. Also, if you want brds to play all those bloody instruments in ffxi, they do still have those servers up go enjoy that brd version. This is ffxiv, brd is different here. Also bear in mind that brds can't make everyone happy. If a battle comes down to the amount of dps being thrown out and timing is everything, a brd can either throw up a song and lose 20% of their dps unless it's foe requiem, and possibly cause a fail because the loss of dps is that critical or the party can manage their tp and mp better and let the brd contribute every bit of dps they can. Don't go raging, it's a what if scenario.
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