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  1. #41
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    SeraviEdalborez's Avatar
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Re: what the Echo buff does. Raises damage dealt and maximum HP if you continually wipe.

    Example, I intentionally wiped to 50 SMN quest fight on my alt.
    1st/2nd attempt: ~2.6k HP (no buff)
    3rd: 3.1k
    4th: 3.9k
    5th: 5.2k

    Didn't see another increase on the 6th so I just stopped testing. I have heard that every stack of the Echo buff is +10% damage dealt as well.

    Even with this, there will always be people bad/lazy/desperate/etc enough to buy a HM win, much less an Extreme win.
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    XI: Zeroblade, Titan Server

  2. #42
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMElan View Post
    Source, please? I've heard nothing of this and have been following every piece of news about 2.1.
    he 100% right when someone dies in the boss room you dont do anything to raise them till after the fight is done.
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    Last edited by indira; 12-09-2013 at 09:49 AM.

  3. #43
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    he 100% right when someone dies in the boss room you dont do anything to raise them till after the fight is done.
    Source please, and it better not be what Yoshi-P said in live letter, because he said that the EMs just don't give an opportunity to accept raise without being slaughtered while immobile. You can get lucky, but is it worth to use the MP for trying to Raise if the player most likely just dies again, before they can do anything?
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    well except for the skill Resurrection.



    well tried to use raise but it no longer raise players during combat.

    Only the Arcanist skill Ressurect works in combat now sadly.



    Quite embarrassing there are people like this who have a Relic...
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  5. #45
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    Chloe Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Quite embarrassing there are people like this who have a Relic...
    So I made a mistake. There you happy now.

    The game been going through adjustments constantly it hard for me to keep up with the little things changed and not changed unless you player the game a lot.

    (I wonder how long will people keep shoving this at me since from what I leaned that a small mistake in info won't die down until several month or more because people don't find any reason to make fun of people over a old topic.)
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  6. #46
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    No amount of buffs will help those who can't dodge.
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  7. #47
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    Bunny Boo
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    No amount of buffs will help those who can't dodge.
    As long as they dont get knocked off the ledge. Buffs help them alot actully.

    If it lets them survive weight/landslide into tulmults. Or perhaps doubled up bombs/weight. Buff to dps lets them get past heart.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-09-2013 at 10:16 AM.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    So I made a mistake. There you happy now.

    The game been going through adjustments constantly it hard for me to keep up with the little things changed and not changed unless you player the game a lot.

    (I wonder how long will people keep shoving this at me since from what I leaned that a small mistake in info won't die down until several month or more because people don't find any reason to make fun of people over a old topic.)
    Did u buy your relic?

    Noone is allowed to make mistakes on this forums.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-09-2013 at 10:22 AM.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Re: what the Echo buff does. Raises damage dealt and maximum HP if you continually wipe.
    If that's what the "nerf" is going to be, I don't think people will stop buying/selling Titan HM runs.

    Really, the hard part of the fight is finding 7 players who know the fight and can consistently dodge Titan' s moves.
    So yeah, people will probably be getting to phase 5 more often due to the dps boost granted by echo, but if they can't dodge overlapping plumes or landslides throwing them off the edge, they are still gonna be looking for "WTS Titan HM"
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    So I made a mistake. There you happy now.

    The game been going through adjustments constantly it hard for me to keep up with the little things changed and not changed unless you player the game a lot.

    (I wonder how long will people keep shoving this at me since from what I leaned that a small mistake in info won't die down until several month or more because people don't find any reason to make fun of people over a old topic.)
    There were never any adjustments to raise. It's always been that way. Conjurer learns a trait that allows raise to be used in combat. When cross-classed, you can only raise out of combat.
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