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    Player
    Cid_Grim's Avatar
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    Aeron Grim
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Yea..... I also watched someone get raised during combat 30 min ago.
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    Sove92's Avatar
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Odin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    And Paladin was never able to cast Raise in combat, Raise only works in combat if used by a CNJ/WHM of at least level 28. Resurrection of the ACN branch always works in combat.
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    Esmian's Avatar
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    Esmian Leithrit
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    It's discussions like these on people not knowing how skills for different classes work that makes me believe all nerfs are 100% justified.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Re: what the Echo buff does. Raises damage dealt and maximum HP if you continually wipe.

    Example, I intentionally wiped to 50 SMN quest fight on my alt.
    1st/2nd attempt: ~2.6k HP (no buff)
    3rd: 3.1k
    4th: 3.9k
    5th: 5.2k

    Didn't see another increase on the 6th so I just stopped testing. I have heard that every stack of the Echo buff is +10% damage dealt as well.

    Even with this, there will always be people bad/lazy/desperate/etc enough to buy a HM win, much less an Extreme win.
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    XI: Zeroblade, Titan Server

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    ZanderMist's Avatar
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    Za'nder Mist
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Re: what the Echo buff does. Raises damage dealt and maximum HP if you continually wipe.
    If that's what the "nerf" is going to be, I don't think people will stop buying/selling Titan HM runs.

    Really, the hard part of the fight is finding 7 players who know the fight and can consistently dodge Titan' s moves.
    So yeah, people will probably be getting to phase 5 more often due to the dps boost granted by echo, but if they can't dodge overlapping plumes or landslides throwing them off the edge, they are still gonna be looking for "WTS Titan HM"
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    Tymora Estrellauta
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    No amount of buffs will help those who can't dodge.
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    Bunny Boo
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    No amount of buffs will help those who can't dodge.
    As long as they dont get knocked off the ledge. Buffs help them alot actully.

    If it lets them survive weight/landslide into tulmults. Or perhaps doubled up bombs/weight. Buff to dps lets them get past heart.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-09-2013 at 10:16 AM.

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