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    Player
    HamHam's Avatar
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    Ul'dah, Eorzea
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    Hamtaro Kakamaro
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    I feel a troll.. cuz this guy wants his FC to hand him a coil spot so he dosent have to try ..
    I don't see this as trolling. I think he has a legit concern.

    You are telling him to leave his FC in order to join another FC.

    He has a good point. The limitations put in by SE on coil does create friction among FC members. If you want to progress on coil, a group must be on the same levels and can't go back. What this means is you can't pick ppl from your own FC to bring them to your level. Meaning, that only a set core of 8 within the FC can participate. What this cause is that those that want to participate won't be able unless there are another set of 8 that can enter. But not all people are on the same level of skill or schedule.

    Some can go at certain time, others can't go everyday, etc... So, it's very hard to coordinate a group that has the same schedule, gear ready, and other factors.

    For example, if you have a set of 8 that goes on a set day and time, and let's say this group is on turn 4, but one member had an RL event or emergency and doesn't log in that day. The static group, have some choice, they can ask someone in the FC or shout, but what if those in the FC are all locked on turn 5, and some are on turn 1, now those on turn 1 can say they can go, but they are now locked from getting into turn 1-2 and missing on getting gear for that week. Those on turn 5 can't go due to the lock. Now, if the group can't get anyone because of these conditions, then there's no choice but to shout. What if these member missing from the party is a tank or healer, these are essential to succeed in coil.

    There are other scenarios, but my point is that coil only separate players, instead of bringing them together and enjoy the game. Yes, this is a GAME, it's suppose to be fun for people.
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    Wyyote's Avatar
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    Lika Voss
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post

    There are other scenarios, but my point is that coil only separate players, instead of bringing them together and enjoy the game. Yes, this is a GAME, it's suppose to be fun for people.
    I'll concede that a select group can create friction. My argument would be that instead of complaining about this, go out and find a group that has the same goals and expectations of the OP. I'd also say, that to those 8/16 people in the FC static, I bet they're having a blast.

    Having just landed in a competent, care free, but effective static myself I've got to say; it's some of the most fun I've had gaming in years. This after transferring servers because I was unhappy with my FC and server population in my time zone on Masamune.

    Get up, dust off, get your game face on, and stop letting other people negatively impact your experience. The ownership is on the player to choose whom they interact with and how. Not the devs. The OP can do more to combat his issue.

    Your argument has merit, and I agree this could be an issue. My point is it's not a DEV problem.
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    Last edited by Wyyote; 12-09-2013 at 10:50 AM.

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    Ri_ri's Avatar
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by HamHam View Post
    There are other scenarios, but my point is that coil only separate players, instead of bringing them together and enjoy the game. Yes, this is a GAME, it's suppose to be fun for people.
    I think it was SE's point too.

    For example, I can only get one more healer item from T1. But four tank items on it. So, why would I go with my semi static (that refuses to let me tank) instead of looking for other people that needs a tank?

    Grouping with other players outside your FC is fun. (Not to mention that grouping with other players allows me to get past ADS...)

    I keep hearing some people say that they do Coil T1-T4 in 40 minutes, I wonder how much they're getting out of it (as in, how much fun). Doing the same thing, with the same people and the same exact strategy every week... booring.
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