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    BiS gear, is it THAT important?

    Currently I possess a few i90 pieces sporting both allagan and Myth pieces, alot of people seem to care whats BiS and personally I only care if the items are i90 or not.

    Question is, is it that important that I have an allagan piece where a myth piece should be? or vise versa?

    The allagan on dragoon looks very very ugly, and i'll probably sport the Wyrm pieces for vanity sakes.
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    Patricia Nirvana
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    Don't think so to be honest and also never seen anyone care either. Seems to me its more about getting that extra few numbers where possible to their healing / attacking.
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    There is not just one version of BiS. There should be at least 3-4 for you using only ilvl90 Myth and Allagan. What you need to do is figure out which combination you want to use, you have no choice but to plan for one and do your best to acquire it.

    The reason behind this is Acc, you don't want to be behind T5 Acc requirement and you don't want to go over it (with food of course) then maximise the secondary stat that fit your own style or the general known rotation. It is up to you how you pick your own BiS, of course some BiS combination are better than others, but they are all within 5% of each others up and down.

    Note: Whatever combination you go for it has to be all Myth and Allagan, no ilvl 70 HQ crafted, they are good only as place holders and Vit for T5 until you aquaria what you need.

    Note 2: You don't have to mix and match everything, you can go almost full Allagan or almost full Myth, I say this because only the main pieces effect how you look, no need to worry how the right side looks like. As I said it is only with in 5% with each others in most cases, just don't go full random.

    Note 3: Example, for BLM best 3 are, : 1- almost full Allagan (Det), 2- half and half (Crit), 3- almost full Myth (SS). They are within 5% range of each others more or less, but they are all calculated to hit the min needed acc with HQ food and max a secondary stat.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-09-2013 at 12:46 PM.

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    Generally, other i90 pieces will be a small gain over i90 pieces, but over the course of the whole set is where you'll see a difference.
    At most I would expect a ~5% difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    Generally, other i90 pieces will be a small gain over i90 pieces, but over the course of the whole set is where you'll see a difference.
    At most I would expect a ~5% difference.
    I would say 5%~ more or less is the difference between each BiS set. However, the difference can go high as 10% if compared to a set that have less than the needed Acc or much more than the actual cap when you need much less.

    I know Acc effect everyone but for a BLM, it is the end of the world when you miss Bliz III at low mana. I'm only assuming DRG are just as effected more or less if they miss an attack.
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    Luna Clear
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    Not as important as people think in general. Just need to look at the different BLM sets (crit vs speed vs det), they're all within like 5 dps of each others. Hindering your gear progression because you're shooting for a very specific set of equipment is the worst thing you can do on the short term, and considering how long you have to go before they raise gear above 90 you have more than enough time to take a few non optimal upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoAmon View Post
    I would say 5%~ more or less is the difference between each BiS set. However, the difference can go high as 10% if compared to a set that have less than the needed Acc or much more than the actual cap when you need much less.

    I know Acc effect everyone but for a BLM, it is the end of the world when you miss Bliz III at low mana. I'm only assuming DRG are just as effected more or less if they miss an attack.
    I was assuming ACC cap.

    I mean, that should be the general assumption.

    I would hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    I was assuming ACC cap.

    I mean, that should be the general assumption.

    I would hope.

    I have seen wonders my friend, had people argue that SMN don't need Acc, crafters telling me full crafted HQ is far superior to full ilvl90, then there was dat person who kept calling me a nub cause I don't spam Fire III in AK.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-09-2013 at 01:37 PM.

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    In this game, BiS means very little on a personal level, but if everyone in your raid is min maxed that's a lot of extra damage as a whole and you will notice it over everyone just in random i90 gear with ACC cap.
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    Sally Syrup
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    In my view, when vanity system comes out BiS will be important. People will worry less about the aesthetics of the gear and look more towards the stats.

    Edit:
    Just to add. Gear really doesn't make a bad player good. Even though some people are all talk about grabbing players wearing BiS for their parties doesn't mean they will always out-perform players who know how to play well and wear poorer quality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    The allagan on dragoon looks very very ugly, and i'll probably sport the Wyrm pieces for vanity sakes.
    Don't worry about the look so much right now. Vanity will change that in the future (hopefully). I would recommend working on BiS even if you don't like the look of it right now.
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    Last edited by Luso; 12-09-2013 at 03:12 PM.

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