Light/full Party buff

[Choc]

why do people act as if current NM is going to be the only content and upcoming NMs going to be as easy as current NMs?

If you had read I was mainly referring to people filling their group with non important people for future content, I wasnt talking about our current nms as they dont justify the hastle. If there isnt any restriction on level/range they might as well give light party the same buff as full.

[Chardrizard]

If you had read I was mainly referring to people filling their group with non important people for future content, I wasnt talking about our current nms as they dont justify the hastle. If there isnt any restriction on level/range they might as well give light party the same buff as full.

I see your point but 5% isnt going to break the game to be honest, you won't just suddenly beat an NM with 5% more accuracy. If anything i feel the buff is more like morale boost to make you feel stronger in party thus encourage partying.

[Choc]

I see your point but 5% isnt going to break the game to be honest, you won't just suddenly beat an NM with 5% more accuracy. If anything i feel the buff is more like morale boost to make you feel stronger in party thus encourage partying.

I cant remember the exact number, but believe it is a few hundred hp/mp and a 5% boost in accuracy. Its not going to make the game a bunch easier, but if your having a hard time in a dungeon and trying to obtain something special whats stopping people from filling that group? Every little bit helps after all and a couple hundred hp is actually a pretty big boost compared to how much we get, most pieces of gear doesnt even get more than 40 hp on it at high rank.

[Chardrizard]

I cant remember the exact number, but believe it is a few hundred hp/mp and a 5% boost in accuracy. Its not going to make the game a bunch easier, but if your having a hard time in a dungeon and trying to obtain something special whats stopping people from filling that group? Every little bit helps after all and a couple hundred hp is actually a pretty big boost compared to how much we get, most pieces of gear doesnt even get more than 40 hp on it at high rank.

so we agree that the buff isnt really overpowered or anything, why put more restrictions on something that is barely matters? don't get me wrong, im not disagreeing with your idea of getting the buff if you are in rank range and zone, I just dont see it to be trivial at all, it's not something that is abuse-able.

[Ilean]

why do people act as if current NM is going to be the only content and upcoming NMs going to be as easy as current NMs?

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[Choc]

None of the NM's now should be considered End Game.

why do people act as if current NM is going to be the only content and upcoming NMs going to be as easy as current NMs?

I suppose it was my fault when I made the thread. I never should have added the comment about NMs and im sorry, it wasnt what I was trying to get across.

I dont understand why they give a large boost in the buff from light to full party, thus rewarding you for filling out your party but dont have any restrictions on it, I think they need restrictions or change it so its just "party buff" and you get the full buff at 3 members. Its not gamebreaking, and not at top of changes I want but at the same time I thought it was odd they didnt have those at the start nor do I think it would be hard to change.

And to people saying its not a big boost I really dont understand. Theres no other buff or gear in the game that comes even close to 200 hp/mp and 10% accuracy, thats actually pretty significant. Like I said I was thinking more towards when things become difficult and if you have something available to you to give a higher chance at completing that nm at the end of a dungeon then why not? Its not like its hard to add a couple crafters in your ls to get that full party bonus.

Its something I can really see being abused if people are having any trouble.

[Punxsutawney]

The buff is ok, but should not be automatic just for having 4 or 8 people in the party. How it should be is this: If you make a party and it has 4-7 members, the party leader gets a command to use "Bolster Morale," which when used gives the same buff as it is now, for 15 minutes and can be used every 30 minutes. In an 8 man party, the command changes to "Waring Cry" and gives the 8 man party buff as it is now for 15 min, and can be used for every 30 minutes.
To make it so you people can't abuse it just by making someone else the leader after they used the buff command, all SE would have to do is make it so Waring Cry can only overwrite Bolster Morale. That way, bolster morale doesn't overwrite another bolster morale and Waring Cry can not overwrite another Waring Cry.

[Firon]

First you have to consider that they changed the current nm's to match the new battle system. Second they will just balance content with the buff's in mind makes sense to do it that way so it's really not a big deal.

Now if the buff's are to OP when they new battle system is in place then there is rooms for complaints but anything right now is simply invalid.

[Jynx]

Party bonus should at least be restricted to some sort of distance. The buff should only be in effect when all members are operational and in the same area.

I could get a bunch of mules to party with me so I could solo better than anyone else my level range. Unfair advantage if you ask me.

[Rentahamster]

FYI, what you just wrote doesn't refute any of the points I made.

You're still getting an undeserved bonus based on arbitrary parameters, regardless of the existence of dungeons or not.