Duty Finder WP Tank

[Aegys]

Being in a small FC, there are times when our tanks are not online, so we use the duty finder to get our tank.

Today we have encountered several tanks who does one or both of two things:
1) Pull mobs from the beginning to the room after the beetles.
2) Pull mobs into boss rooms and stand at the door.

Now let me note that we have had 3 tanks today do this. 2/3 had healers from their own FC (looked up names on the lodestone). For those that had their own healers, they yell at us for not starting the bosses in the room. For the tank without a personal FC healer, they yell at the healer for not healing them and dying.

The tank always leaves after dying and we are stuck with a party of 2 or 3. These were all Duty Finder parties, and we were never taught to Speed Run WP before. Especially, not without explanation.

The average time it takes for a WP run with our FC is 25 minutes at our fastest, but usually 30-35 minutes. Is this time too slow for DF created parties?

[Schmitty]

From the sound of it, you have run into a tank who:

A) Has not played a healing class, and may not understand that this style of clearing WP requires coordination between healer and tank (as well as dps but less so than the healer&tank).

B) Has unreal expectations of DF groups. Almost every DF group is different, proper adjustments will need to be made.

C) Has not recognized the tool that chat can be while using the duty finder. (I highly recommend taking advantage of it

[MirariMirai]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

[Malendroit]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here?

Is this time too slow for DF created parties?

Good work on ignoring a completely valid question...

To answer your question, 30-35 minutes is completely fine in DF and not at all unexpected.

As an experienced WHM, I go into every DF expecting a 25ish minute speed-like run. I'd rather join up in a PUG on my server and do a 15ish minute speed-run.

Speed runs are designed for everyone being properly geared and having the proper party setup as well. +1 relic/Full DL is generally the minimum people want. Duty Finding this and expecting everyone to have this is absurd.
They should be adjusting to the groups abilities, NOT having the group adjust to their abilities.

I wish you luck, Aegys!

[Babylyn90]

speed runs are usually completed in less than 15 or so...

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Maybe speed runners could get off the DF and meet up with those who are shouting for them in Mhor Dhona? Maybe they could make an effort to suck it up and just finish the run at the cost of 10 more min (vs. taking the 15min hit or having to restart)?

That saying could be applied to speed runners just as well, pointless.

[Aegys]

maybe u could make an effort to learn how to speed run in case u meet more of such tanks? instead of whining here? the saying goes "if u can't win them... join them..."

Maybe you can make an effort to teach? Instead of whining here about people not making an effort to learn. Why else would I make a thread asking if my normal completion time is consistent with what the community demands?

[Necaust]

I've been gearing up all my other jobs as a WHM in WP. I've seen all this before. The worse tanks are always coil geared. Apparently, having coil gear means you can't move out of a stack of AOEs to avoid instant death. It makes the run more difficult and time consuming because instead of spamming Holy I'm spamming heals. Some of the best tanks out there have been in crap gear/partial DL. Considering my experiences thus far, I am shocked to see so many geared tanks whom have obviously thrived off of exceptional healers through raids.

[AdamuKun322]

One thing I do as a Tank in WP is I always ask the DF party if they want the mobs pulled together. If they do with the start of WP, I pull the two Tonberries that spawn into the Room with Buzzards. From there on, I pull it one group at a time looking out for the Stalker so I can dive behind a corner and the party follows me for the most part.

[Plainview]

I've never tanked a speed run since my gear isn't there yet. having said that, most runs are pretty smooth. One thing that irritates me, it one member running off to pull extra mobs because they want things to move faster. I'm not a prima donna, but folks expect the tank to control the pulls. If you are in DF, then accept the fact that you aren't getting a speed run. It's that simple.

[Bayman]

The tank pulled correctly for a fast run. BUT, since it was DF they probably should have asked or let people know what was gonna happen.

I usually let groups know that I will pull to beetles... if I die in that portion, I turn it into a normal run. Its DF, not all my buddies in l90 gear going for 15 min runs.