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  1. #11
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    Baci Asciar
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    I would understand to buff the shield if it would drop from Twintania, but since it drops from T1 it´s a no-go to buff the shield.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baci View Post
    I would understand to buff the shield if it would drop from Twintania, but since it drops from T1 it´s a no-go to buff the shield.
    This. The devs said that they were increasing the ilevel on the allagan weapons because they were t5 drops, and Twintania is hard enough to justify better loot than the rest of the turns. They did not say that they were increasing the ilevel on *all* t5 drops; just the weapons.

    Something to remember, on the shield, since off hand items have only half of the itemization of a main hand weapon, you're complaining about losing an 1 STR, 1 VIT, and 2 points of secondary stat.

    P.S. Determination is valued at roughly 50% more than the other secondary stats, which is why it's always lower; 18 determination is the itemization equivalent of roughly 27 of a different secondary stat.
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    Kana Reith
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    Not so much complaining as equality to other classes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YarozeX View Post
    Not so much complaining as equality to other classes.
    PLD gets the shield in t1. If it were i95, you'd be talking about giving PLD an explicit advantage because it's super easy to get access to that shield whereas everyone else has to finish out t5. The entire point of the change is to increase the reward for t5.

    You're also going to see more impact based upon the real value of the different secondary stats than you are from the loss you're talking about. The fact that the Allagan Sword and Allagan Shield are loaded down with both Acc and Parry rating while the Allagan Axe is just Acc and Det is a bigger question of real equality than what you're attempting to dredge up. The fact that the Allagan Sword and Shield both pack the best tank stats (especially given that they're high parry rating) means that PLD is going to have a pretty substantial advantage over WAR even *if* you're losing 1 STR, 1 VIT, and 2 secondary stats.
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  5. #15
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    Taneshima Popura
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    Or they can just round up the 5ilvl stat into the sword.
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    Altimis Farron
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Or they can just round up the 5ilvl stat into the sword.
    I like this idea, I have feeling SE gonna put Sword's stats on par with two-handed weapon

    So all turn 5 weapons will have the same amounts of stats option

    So PLD still have a little edge because their shield level 90 still huge boost
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    Hahahahahahaha Hahaha
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    It's a strange comparison to make with the Allagan battleaxe anyway, since the axe has no parry and will continue to fall short of bravura (or, more likely, the new ilvl 90 axe from extreme modes that will, hopefully, have parry and any other stat besides skill speed, making it the new best in slot) even after it is buffed to an ilvl 95. An ilvl 95 sword and an easy-to-obtain ilvl 90 shield is completely fair I think.
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    Womble O'flaherty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    PLD gets the shield in t1.
    In theory.

    In practice I've done Coils Turn 1 (and usually 2 and 3, and occasionally 4) every week for months now and all I've ever seen drop are DRG/MNK gear and the odd Healer item...
    RNG hates me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelwys View Post
    In theory.

    RNG hates tanks!
    Fixed that for you
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    so basically if you don't do coil you don't get the i95 weapon which means its going to be even harder to hold agro against players who do get the weapon .

    oh well only solution is to not play tank and to just que as healer I guess .
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