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    Lika Voss
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60

    Lockout - why the big deal?

    A number of players are seemingly upset over the supposed lockout. Why is this 1-2 month delay in getting your supposed "loot" such a big deal? The content is the real treasure - getting loot is a bonus is it not?

    Also, just to clear this up as well. Gear from CT is not preventing anyone from tackling content already in the game. It's simply another alternate and progressive step. Bypass it completely if you do not agree with said lockout.

    /rant off.

    Quote Originally Posted by teoulas View Post
    Or bypass the game entirely. Logic?
    The content in question, if stressful for you. Absolutely. Can't support what you don't agree with right?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrionInerghem View Post
    the i70-i90 gap is annoying, and we want to close it.
    Not to the developers.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post

    You can go back to WP! Because the content is so much fun! Coil! YESSS!!
    I doubt the developers thought the community would spam WP till their eyes bled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    Because lockouts kills competition.
    Incorrect. Lockouts prevent gear progression quickly. Lockouts therefore increase competition as more people have access to the same level gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crafter View Post
    PLD leaves the instance, since we won't be able to get anything else until next week...
    Said Paladin needs to get a swift kick in the rear. Say, why are you hating on PLD anyways?
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    Last edited by Wyyote; 12-06-2013 at 10:01 AM. Reason: reply

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    Yes!! Hear hear!!!

    You can go back to WP! Because the content is so much fun! Coil! YESSS!!

    No.
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    Bring Quality Notorious Monsters to FFXIV!

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    OrionInerghem's Avatar
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    Aldebaron Phoenix
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    Hyperion
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    Because many of us have 1 Class already at or near full i90, and 7 other classes wearing i60, or Almost full DL already. And we'd like to gear up and play other classes to where they can be effectively used. I have DL, for almost all classes, the i70-i90 gap is annoying, and we want to close it.
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    Stanice Aurelie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyyote View Post
    The content is the real treasure - getting loot is a bonus
    I must be treasuring Wanderer's Palace very deeply.
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    R'hllor Light
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    Odin
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    Or bypass the game entirely. Logic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teoulas View Post
    Or bypass the game entirely. Logic?
    No logic is permitted here!
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    Tenku Kibo
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    Because lockouts kills competition. Lockouts forces the people who put more time in the game to be on the same level as people who don't put much time in the game. Lockouts forces mediocrity to all which kills motivation. Everyone plays the game for fun. Many find trying to be the best; fun.
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    Yes!! Hear hear!!!

    You can go back to WP! Because the content is so much fun! Coil! YESSS!!

    No.
    Oh hey! Did you also know that there's going to be Copperbell Mines (Hard), Haukke Manor (Hard), and Pharos Sirius as more dungeons to farm tomestones from? Not including daily quests, daily DF roulette, extreme primals, Good King Moogle Mog XII (whatever the number is).

    You can continue going back to WP, nobody will stop you. Just that there are other options out there.
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    Tony Dincht
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Because I like to play every job, and I play them extremely well. It's stupid when you need a BLM for a T5 group, but I can't go because I'm in scrubby darklight gear, because PLD/WAR is my i90 class. It's going to be the same way with extreme primals. Sure, recommended ilvl is 70, but why would you want to do those fights in the lowest ilvl possible? You're stuck to playing a single class the entire game despite it having this cool system of having everything on 1 character. What is the point of this system then? When it is actually more beneficial just to make an alt anyway? It's stupid. Lockouts on i80 gear is stupid. You already locked out the best gear in the game, why the second best? Really?
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenku View Post
    Because lockouts kills competition. Lockouts forces the people who put more time in the game to be on the same level as people who don't put much time in the game. Lockouts forces mediocrity to all which kills motivation. Everyone plays the game for fun. Many find trying to be the best; fun.
    To be fair, there's nothing keeping the "hardcores" at ground level with casuals beyond running CT once. If you don't want or need the gear, then simply don't run it. Same thing applies if you just don't like the raid. Many who raid Coil have a tight-knitted group of players so gearing up alt classes isn't much of an issue if no one wants what drops for their main. On that note, most players (mostly the casual base) haven't stepped into Coil yet so...I'd say those that do are still the best.
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