Need penalties on people who click withdraw more then once in a row in DF

[Borfin]

And how exactly do you know that? Do you have numbers to show? I could say it happens all the time and have the same amount of legitimacy as you do, since I don't have anything tangible to back it up.

I think punishment for wasting other peoples time when you withdraw from something you signed up for is totally acceptable. In fact they already do that in FF14; if you're the first person to ditch a group you get a lockout.

Because that's how queues work, or do you for some reason assume if your tank drops queue your queue resets?

You might have a point if you had to go through your average wait time in queue all over again every time someone dropped. Do you? I know my average wait time is 20-30 minutes (SOMETIMES ever so slightly longer) regardless of troll tank queue drops.

This is how queues function in WoW, in LoL, in DOTA, every online FPS ever, in COUNTLESS games with queue systems - so what evidence do you have to suggest the queue functions differently in FFXIV especially when it appears to behave exactly the same?

How can he be wasting your time when it doesn't affect your position in the queue at all?

[Elim]

need to shorten post cus of character limit so i snipped this

Did....did you read his post?

It's possible say if you're healer #1 in position, while troll tank is queueing, a legitmate tank queues immediately after and thus healer #2 gets a group while you do not.

He finished that post by stating:

the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.

How does he know the likelihood is low? I don't see a chart or numbers. It's possible there's a healer #1 getting screwed hourly by a tank withdrawing. And no, "because I heard it does and say so" isn't enough for me.

[Astarica]

If it is common that a troll tank and a legitmate tank queue up at the same time, then that implies legitmate tanks show up as frequently as troll tanks. Therefore, the queue ought to move at a rate roughly equal to the frequency troll tanks show up.

It should be readily obvious that it takes considerably longer than the frequency you run into troll tanks to get the queue to pop. Therefore, it cannot be the case that the event of a legitmate tank and a troll tank queueing at the same time is very common. At any rate, it doesn't matter because you're just as likely to benefit for being in the #2 position (troll tank gets #1, legitmate tank gets #2) as you're to be harmed by being in the #1 position (situation reversed).

But seriously, just look at how long it takes you to get queue to pop as a nontank. You really think there are all these tanks out there that are constantly queueing and there's just some trick that's preventing you from seeing them? If they existed, you wouldn't be waiting for so long in the first place.

[Elim]

It may not be that common, but I doubt it's "minuscule" or "rarely happens".