Need penalties on people who click withdraw more then once in a row in DF

[Grailer]

Just put a 15-30 second lockout on the guy who declined group finder before you can queue again. For anyone else but tank, it's not like that time even matters when you usually need 10+ minutes before it pops. For tanks, they'll get an instant queue 15-30 seconds later to try again, but it'll be less spam for everyone else.

Yeah that would work as a lazy fix . But I would rather them implement a more advanced DF system that allows me to customise my party to what I prefer. For example I might want to find only Relic +1 players to group with and certain classes .

You are going to say but then my lancer would never get a group .. well if I get lancer in my group I quit anyways so Im saving you and myself time .

[Borfin]

It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.

I queue almost exclusively as DPS.

Yeah. It really is minor. Ridiculously minor. Absurdly minor. Is ~30 seconds of "trolling" before being paired with an actual tank that sticks around really that big a deal to you? Really?

It doesn't affect your position in the queue at all. You're still first in line for a tank that actually queues up for the group, you realize.

You are going to say but then my lancer would never get a group .. well if I get lancer in my group I quit anyways so Im saving you and myself time .

And it's probably better if people like you aren't in the queue at all, you're right.

[Eisah]

As healer I often do a quick check to see if parties have been abandoned in a dungeon. I wish there was an option to check only groups already in progress.

Sometimes you can tell why a group got ditched if they're not very good, but a lot of times they had bad luck or just had someone who ditched. I've gone through plenty of lower dungeons in parties who had only had DD left.
(Also had a funny time where an LS mate asked for help and I got placed in a different party that had lost their healer, finished with them, then popped in again and did it with my LS mate).

I hate withdrawing from a brand new party, but I don't have to do it often since if you click 5 dungeons there's usually one in progress that needs a healer.

[KingZeus]

this was already discussed and an dev already responded too

[Kyros]

Yeah. It really is minor. Ridiculously minor. Absurdly minor. Is ~30 seconds of "trolling" before being paired with an actual tank that sticks around really that big a deal to you? Really?

One time I spend 15 minutes of tanks dodging a queue, on top of the 7ish minutes it took me to queue up as a healer. It's definitively not minor, and it basically tripled my queue time (Half an hour instead of >10 minutes). Yes, the system immediately puts you "next in line", which can still range from instant to 1min per dodge depending on availability and congestion.

Perhaps you've been lucky and it hasn't happened to you, but I've queued as non-tank about two times and I've had this happen on both (One only was 3 dodges). To me this is a very apparent problem, and people downplaying it because it hasn't happened to them are clearly missing the point.

[Astarica]

One time I spend 15 minutes of tanks dodging a queue, on top of the 7ish minutes it took me to queue up as a healer. It's definitively not minor, and it basically tripled my queue time (Half an hour instead of >10 minutes). Yes, the system immediately puts you "next in line", which can still range from instant to 1min per dodge depending on availability and congestion.

Perhaps you've been lucky and it hasn't happened to you, but I've queued as non-tank about two times and I've had this happen on both (One only was 3 dodges). To me this is a very apparent problem, and people downplaying it because it hasn't happened to them are clearly missing the point.

Without the tank doing the dodging your queue would never have popped in the first place.

You lose no time for people doing this, although it gets annoying hearing your machine sound like you won a jackpot in a slot machine for a whole minute.

[Delorean]

Tick the join party in progress before you register yourself for DF, its getting annoying when you withdraw just because you didn't get the group that's already at the last boss

joke's on you

i always take 1/3

people generally avoid 0/3 though because they end up having to wait for a healer or because there is still a lot of trash.

If a group is post DW in AK it is pretty likely a success group as that is the only boss in that instance that is any hard at all.

i have never had a problem with an in progress group.

[Borfin]

One time I spend 15 minutes of tanks dodging a queue, on top of the 7ish minutes it took me to queue up as a healer. It's definitively not minor, and it basically tripled my queue time (Half an hour instead of >10 minutes).

You queue without it regularly taking 20-30 minutes? I want to be in your server group. (One time... Phew.)

Perhaps you've been lucky and it hasn't happened to you, but I've queued as non-tank about two times and I've had this happen on both (One only was 3 dodges).

That's... really not a good sample size. At all. It's rare, it's 15-30 seconds tops most times, and when it isn't, you're still at the front of the line every time. So it doesn't actually affect your queue time at all. It just feels like it does.

You can make an argument that while you're occupied with the troll tank for 2-3 seconds, you might've missed a legitimate tank queueing up, but since every time he (the troll tank) drops queue he also drops his position in queue, that's highly unlikely.

A more elegant solution would be to keep the queue popping from telling you which bosses have been downed in the instance or the time remaining, but punishing people that do this is utterly ridiculous, absurd and will only cause queue times to increase for in-progress groups.

Without the tank doing the dodging your queue would never have popped in the first place.

You lose no time for people doing this, although it gets annoying hearing your machine sound like you won a jackpot in a slot machine for a whole minute.

This post wins the thread.

[Astarica]

You can make an argument that while you're occupied with the troll tank for 2-3 seconds, you might've missed a legitimate tank queueing up, but since every time he (the troll tank) drops queue he also drops his position in queue, that's highly unlikely.

It's possible say if you're healer #1 in position, while troll tank is queueing, a legitmate tank queues immediately after and thus healer #2 gets a group while you do not. However it is also equally likely that you got a group for being in the healer #2 position while the healer #1 position guy missed it. At any rate, legitmate tanks clearly don't show up very often simply by looking at queue time for nontanks, so the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.

[Elim]

so the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.

And how exactly do you know that? Do you have numbers to show? I could say it happens all the time and have the same amount of legitimacy as you do, since I don't have anything tangible to back it up.

I think punishment for wasting other peoples time when you withdraw from something you signed up for is totally acceptable. In fact they already do that in FF14; if you're the first person to ditch a group you get a lockout.