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  1. #11
    Player
    Sub-Xero's Avatar
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    Apr 2011
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    Character
    Godric Blackblade
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Maybe they should just separate the queues for "Join in Progress" and regular searching? I know how terrible it can be for DPS classes to get into a group and if the tank bails they're pretty much boned seeing as most tanks are not going to queue up with "Join in Progress". Knowing that, there was one specific day where all I did was queue up with "Join in Progress" selected but I had to keep withdrawing because I wasn't getting put into groups that were already in progress. While I totally understand that there are people abusing the DF, I was actually trying to help people and while no one would've known it was me queuing and withdrawing repeatedly, I'm sure there were a lot of people sitting in front of their monitors/TVs that weren't happy.
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  2. #12
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    KyteStones's Avatar
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    Character
    Vergil Savickas
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I wish they'd be a little more lax with the DF penalty to begin with. If i have to drop due to unfortunate circumstances (keep wiping or DPS goes afk for free tomes) i shouldn't be penalized for the FIRST time I drop group. maybe not even the second, but for the third. Hell, even make it a 30 minute lockout i don't care. Sick of being penalized for one time for reasons that aren't my fault. 15 minute penalty because I was being harassed in a dungeon and decided to leave? Yeah, give me the penalty while the harassing party gets away with it free of the lockout timer.
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  3. #13
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    AdvancedWind's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Ashley Zeibel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    This is stupid. You want to punish people for what is a minor annoyance at worst. No.
    It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.
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  4. #14
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    Alkimi's Avatar
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    Character
    Alkimi Asura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.
    Even as a healer queueing for WP, it's like 7 mins to get 4/4 and then a further 10 mins of tanks continuously withdrawing party until you get one who isn't lazy.
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  5. #15
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    Aegis's Avatar
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    Character
    Aegis Elisus
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    This is stupid. You want to punish people for what is a minor annoyance at worst. No.
    This could be something as simple as a five minute lockout before reflagging if someone drops three times in ten minutes.

    Hardly a punishment, but would discourage people who are deliberately annoying other people.
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  6. #16
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    Korbei's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Korbei Korobei
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    What about people who are trying to join a friend's in-progress run by request but didn't get placed in the correct group?
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  7. #17
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Character
    Tee Hee
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Once in brayflox, when everybody loaded, tank turned around, ran to exit and left dungeon. Everybody else was WTF?!
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  8. #18
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Sweden
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    Character
    Luna Nattvind
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Huxer View Post
    Most times Id rather join a new group, many of the in progress runs are doomed to failure anyways.
    If a group is post DW in AK it is pretty likely a success group as that is the only boss in that instance that is any hard at all.
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  9. #19
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    Astarica's Avatar
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    Character
    Olan Durai
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Just put a 15-30 second lockout on the guy who declined group finder before you can queue again. For anyone else but tank, it's not like that time even matters when you usually need 10+ minutes before it pops. For tanks, they'll get an instant queue 15-30 seconds later to try again, but it'll be less spam for everyone else.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Elim Lovecraft
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Agreed. The more they decline the higher the lockout they should get. For example: the first time they decline they should get a five minute lockout, when that lockout is done and if they decline another party they should get a ten minute lockout, then fifteen for the third time they decline, etc. It should punish someone for being lazy, so much so that it becomes more time consuming to abuse the DF than to simply join a group and finish a dungeon.
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