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    Astarica's Avatar
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    Olan Durai
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    Just put a 15-30 second lockout on the guy who declined group finder before you can queue again. For anyone else but tank, it's not like that time even matters when you usually need 10+ minutes before it pops. For tanks, they'll get an instant queue 15-30 seconds later to try again, but it'll be less spam for everyone else.
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    Just put a 15-30 second lockout on the guy who declined group finder before you can queue again. For anyone else but tank, it's not like that time even matters when you usually need 10+ minutes before it pops. For tanks, they'll get an instant queue 15-30 seconds later to try again, but it'll be less spam for everyone else.
    Yeah that would work as a lazy fix . But I would rather them implement a more advanced DF system that allows me to customise my party to what I prefer. For example I might want to find only Relic +1 players to group with and certain classes .

    You are going to say but then my lancer would never get a group .. well if I get lancer in my group I quit anyways so Im saving you and myself time .
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Agreed. The more they decline the higher the lockout they should get. For example: the first time they decline they should get a five minute lockout, when that lockout is done and if they decline another party they should get a ten minute lockout, then fifteen for the third time they decline, etc. It should punish someone for being lazy, so much so that it becomes more time consuming to abuse the DF than to simply join a group and finish a dungeon.
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    Eisah Vakohler
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    Excalibur
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    As healer I often do a quick check to see if parties have been abandoned in a dungeon. I wish there was an option to check only groups already in progress.

    Sometimes you can tell why a group got ditched if they're not very good, but a lot of times they had bad luck or just had someone who ditched. I've gone through plenty of lower dungeons in parties who had only had DD left.
    (Also had a funny time where an LS mate asked for help and I got placed in a different party that had lost their healer, finished with them, then popped in again and did it with my LS mate).

    I hate withdrawing from a brand new party, but I don't have to do it often since if you click 5 dungeons there's usually one in progress that needs a healer.
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    this was already discussed and an dev already responded too
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Quote Originally Posted by gintoki88 View Post
    Tick the join party in progress before you register yourself for DF, its getting annoying when you withdraw just because you didn't get the group that's already at the last boss
    joke's on you

    i always take 1/3

    people generally avoid 0/3 though because they end up having to wait for a healer or because there is still a lot of trash.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunavi View Post
    If a group is post DW in AK it is pretty likely a success group as that is the only boss in that instance that is any hard at all.
    i have never had a problem with an in progress group.
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    If it is common that a troll tank and a legitmate tank queue up at the same time, then that implies legitmate tanks show up as frequently as troll tanks. Therefore, the queue ought to move at a rate roughly equal to the frequency troll tanks show up.

    It should be readily obvious that it takes considerably longer than the frequency you run into troll tanks to get the queue to pop. Therefore, it cannot be the case that the event of a legitmate tank and a troll tank queueing at the same time is very common. At any rate, it doesn't matter because you're just as likely to benefit for being in the #2 position (troll tank gets #1, legitmate tank gets #2) as you're to be harmed by being in the #1 position (situation reversed).

    But seriously, just look at how long it takes you to get queue to pop as a nontank. You really think there are all these tanks out there that are constantly queueing and there's just some trick that's preventing you from seeing them? If they existed, you wouldn't be waiting for so long in the first place.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    It may not be that common, but I doubt it's "minuscule" or "rarely happens".
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    Last edited by Elim; 12-07-2013 at 06:10 AM.

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