Need penalties on people who click withdraw more then once in a row in DF

[AdvancedWind]

This is stupid. You want to punish people for what is a minor annoyance at worst. No.

It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.

[Alkimi]

It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.

Even as a healer queueing for WP, it's like 7 mins to get 4/4 and then a further 10 mins of tanks continuously withdrawing party until you get one who isn't lazy.

[Borfin]

It's not really a minor annoyance if you're DPS.

I queue almost exclusively as DPS.

Yeah. It really is minor. Ridiculously minor. Absurdly minor. Is ~30 seconds of "trolling" before being paired with an actual tank that sticks around really that big a deal to you? Really?

It doesn't affect your position in the queue at all. You're still first in line for a tank that actually queues up for the group, you realize.

You are going to say but then my lancer would never get a group .. well if I get lancer in my group I quit anyways so Im saving you and myself time .

And it's probably better if people like you aren't in the queue at all, you're right.

[Kyros]

Yeah. It really is minor. Ridiculously minor. Absurdly minor. Is ~30 seconds of "trolling" before being paired with an actual tank that sticks around really that big a deal to you? Really?

One time I spend 15 minutes of tanks dodging a queue, on top of the 7ish minutes it took me to queue up as a healer. It's definitively not minor, and it basically tripled my queue time (Half an hour instead of >10 minutes). Yes, the system immediately puts you "next in line", which can still range from instant to 1min per dodge depending on availability and congestion.

Perhaps you've been lucky and it hasn't happened to you, but I've queued as non-tank about two times and I've had this happen on both (One only was 3 dodges). To me this is a very apparent problem, and people downplaying it because it hasn't happened to them are clearly missing the point.

[Aegis]

This is stupid. You want to punish people for what is a minor annoyance at worst. No.

This could be something as simple as a five minute lockout before reflagging if someone drops three times in ten minutes.

Hardly a punishment, but would discourage people who are deliberately annoying other people.

[Lunavi]

Most times Id rather join a new group, many of the in progress runs are doomed to failure anyways.

If a group is post DW in AK it is pretty likely a success group as that is the only boss in that instance that is any hard at all.

[Sub-Xero]

Maybe they should just separate the queues for "Join in Progress" and regular searching? I know how terrible it can be for DPS classes to get into a group and if the tank bails they're pretty much boned seeing as most tanks are not going to queue up with "Join in Progress". Knowing that, there was one specific day where all I did was queue up with "Join in Progress" selected but I had to keep withdrawing because I wasn't getting put into groups that were already in progress. While I totally understand that there are people abusing the DF, I was actually trying to help people and while no one would've known it was me queuing and withdrawing repeatedly, I'm sure there were a lot of people sitting in front of their monitors/TVs that weren't happy.

[KyteStones]

I wish they'd be a little more lax with the DF penalty to begin with. If i have to drop due to unfortunate circumstances (keep wiping or DPS goes afk for free tomes) i shouldn't be penalized for the FIRST time I drop group. maybe not even the second, but for the third. Hell, even make it a 30 minute lockout i don't care. Sick of being penalized for one time for reasons that aren't my fault. 15 minute penalty because I was being harassed in a dungeon and decided to leave? Yeah, give me the penalty while the harassing party gets away with it free of the lockout timer.

[Korbei]

What about people who are trying to join a friend's in-progress run by request but didn't get placed in the correct group?

[vp_cmc]

Once in brayflox, when everybody loaded, tank turned around, ran to exit and left dungeon. Everybody else was WTF?!