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  1. #1
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    Xatsh's Avatar
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    Xatsh Vei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
    Seriously ??? I mean what does it take to make you guys happy.
    Content that drops gear that is not negated by turn 1-4 that will last more then 2 months. Content that does not have ridiculous lockouts that prevent people who want to play the game to play. Content that allows us to play with our friends instead of focusing us to leave people behind.

    There is a lot of interesting stuff but so much of it is worthless besides just doing it once. New dungeon... you can speed run WP for 100 phil and 30 myth. 70 Gear > 60 gear. So unless the new dungeon is sub 15min it is worthless doing besides the achievement and saying you did it.

    PvP is ok I guess, but from what I am reading there are sever restrictions if you make your own group. (will take alot longer to que)

    Crystal tower is screwing over guilds and forcing you to pug with people who have no intention of playing the game the style you want to. Aka forcing casual and hardcores together... which is like oil and water.

    Solo endgame crap.. WOO MORE STUFF TO DO ALONE LIKE 1-50 WAS NOT ENOUGH.. .and yes fate is solo even if you are with 100 others no one works together.

    Duty Roulette ... So I can 100 phil and 10 myth for doing a 50min run with a pug... or I can get 100 and 30 in 15mins with a shout/guild group. Hard decision there.

    Moogle fight is a good starter fight I guess... but you need to beat the hardmodes to get crystal tower and access to other things anyways... so the weapon is worthless because you will have your relic already. Due to the fact SE refuses to add special stats so everything is stupid linear with primary stats.

    Housing looks ok I guess, a -1 from newer mmo with alot more freedom but decent none the less.

    Dungeon xp Boost... the one thing they got right... hope it is better the FATES or few people will do it still.

    Almost everything being developed for this patch has a massive flaw to it which makes it so other things are just more worth your time or they are screwing over guilds which should be the focus at endgame. Great ideas... but horrible implementation.
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  2. 12-06-2013 11:38 PM
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    shouldn't have bothered

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    Gear progession IS fun for some... why is this so hard to comprehend? The rest of it is not as fun to those people.
    Fun is subjective. My wife doesn't think ANY of this is fun.
    She builds terrariums. NOT FUN.
    It is concievable to me that some may not find this patch to their liking.
    There is still only 1 dungeon for end game... I don't think that's enough. For ME, there is other stuff that's FUN to do, but for others there won't be.
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    Sasagawa's Avatar
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    Seriy Anaplian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
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    OK

    Firstly may I ask why you play this game at all ?

    Your post indicates that you do not play for fun or embrace and experience gaming with other people outside your own social circle.

    I have said this before to many people --- A game is what you make of it !

    Fates are fun if you get a party of 8 people from friends or PUG and go to areas noone bothers with, yes its not the best EXP but its still 12-18k most of the time and a lot more entertaining.

    Another great bit of fun is big game hunting with a healer friend --> Basically go to a large fate area on a tank class that well geared and tank the bosses for the fate grinders its a challenge trying to keep hate against many tanks and good fun.

    There are many other fun things to do like helping random parties through hydra/titan etc with a good group of 4 people.

    On to your point about Free companies (NOT GUILDS):

    This is probably my biggest annoyance in this game thanks to FCs the mentality of "I will only do things with my FC(guild) has entered FF" Here is an idea that worked in FFXI and FFXIV 1.0 join multiple LS have multiple friends outside you FC as essentially an FC is meaningless apart from a few extra perks like housing and minute bonuses.

    An example is my coil group, we have a great time playing together pretty much every night and you know what we have about 5 different FCs between us.

    how did we find each other ?

    well funnily enough I run a cross FC LS with about 25 different FCs in it and guess what ?

    when people ask for help I go help. I have helped any other FCs out when they needed a tank or a healer and made friends with many of them as such I made a name for myself in these FCs as a "good player" and from there I was asked to join a number of coil statics and other statics.

    Basically what I am saying is this patch is great for people who actually want to do different things in game with different people, and experience not only loot but also have fun with the quests.

    I really pity the people in restrictive FCs that state you cant do anything outside the FC.

    Also Duty roulette again is designed to integrate the community and help people !, if more people helped others this community would not be in toilet its currently in.
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    Last edited by Sasagawa; 12-06-2013 at 11:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasagawa View Post
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    Drastic different mentalities is the core issue.

    In XI is was exactly the same way. An endgame shell (guild) what ever you want to call it focused on doing almost everything in house. It was all about bringing together everyone to do things that you could not do alone. I was about improving efficiency and working together. Guild > The individual. That was the key to keeping XI alive for so long, it was the bonds formed in that game. Was the same in old EQ, Lineage, and Old WoW to an extent honestly.

    XIV is tearing guilds apart left or right. The content is centered around individual progression not guild. You are forced to split up groups of friends due to forced lowman in everything, the lockouts are just another punch to the gut of someone trying to run something formal instead of a free for all random event.

    I do not play for only fun. I play for my guild, I play for the friendships I made over the past 10yrs within my guild. It is why I put in dozens of hours a week outside the game doing things with my website and various other projects for my guild. This is NOT just a game, MMOs are suppost to go much further than that. Call of Duty, Pokemon, LoL are just games... a mmo is suppose to be much more. Sadly now it is not.

    My FC will not allow people to do things outside FC... at least main events. Because we want to grow ourselves, we want to work together to advance, we want to strengthen the bonds that kept this guild together for now almost 10yrs. A Guild is not a social chat channel, it never will be.
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    VidulaSaix's Avatar
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    Tsuki Kiyoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
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    This will be coming every other patch. I understand that you want to keep progressing in the end game but you have to realize that this is an MMO. It's built for everyone to have fun in equal ways, not just the very small portion of players at the end game. Now, I do agree with you on the CT lockout. That's just a stupid decision on their behalf. As for the amount of players you're allowed to enter with, I also agree that that's a little silly as well but they have said that we'll be able to enter with 24 people of our choosing in the future.

    When it comes to the new Dungeon and the Duty Roulette, yes, you can always do something like WP if you want the quickest bang for your buck when farming Tomes. However, this goes back to what I said earlier that not everyone plays the game in the same way that others do. I personally don't like doing the same Dungeon 10 times per week, and I dislike WP speed runs even more because I personally don't dabble in crafting and often need Gil to keep up with Repair costs and buying Food. The Duty Roulette makes this perfect for a player like myself.

    I hate to repeat myself a third time here, but the Main Scenario quests are for those of us who actually care about the story. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to do it. Not overly interested in PVP or Housing myself, but I know a lot of others enjoy the aspect of them so that's even more content for those players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VidulaSaix View Post
    need Gil to keep up with Repair costs and buying Food.
    Food is getting buffed at least so it doesn't fade on death. Cost increases or decreases will be interesting... And repair cost should never be a concern if you run dungeons for myth. You make enough in one run to repair your gear from 50%(Guess :P).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    New dungeon... you can speed run WP for 100 phil and 30 myth. 70 Gear > 60 gear. So unless the new dungeon is sub 15min it is worthless doing besides the achievement and saying you did it.


    Duty Roulette ... So I can 100 phil and 10 myth for doing a 50min run with a pug... or I can get 100 and 30 in 15mins with a shout/guild group. Hard decision there..
    then cry on forum for the time saved that i have nothing to do in game

    yes hard decision,!I choose playing over siting watching my char do nothing
    I also choose diversity over doing the same thing every monday then nothing else other days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    Meh, not a lot of content for hardcore players. Lackluster PvP and extreme primals that you'll only do once to get your i90 wep and then never do it again, similar to relic quest.

    This isn't going to keep me subbed for 6 months. 'Cause i'm really not looking forward to grinding CT and Coil for the next 6 months and I don't think anybody else here is either. Unless the PvP is like the best thing ever made or something, but i'm really doubting it with that fresh meat stuff...

    But yeah, this update is for the casual players mostly. Disappointing.
    yes cause your such a hardcore player when you look at your class levels, get over yourself, this update is adding loads so if your not happy then stop playing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    Meh, not a lot of content for hardcore players. Lackluster PvP and extreme primals that you'll only do once to get your i90 wep and then never do it again, similar to relic quest.

    This isn't going to keep me subbed for 6 months. 'Cause i'm really not looking forward to grinding CT and Coil for the next 6 months and I don't think anybody else here is either. Unless the PvP is like the best thing ever made or something, but i'm really doubting it with that fresh meat stuff...

    But yeah, this update is for the casual players mostly. Disappointing.
    Are you referring to yourself when you mention hardcore player? lmao if the answer is yes
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