Lockout - why the big deal?

[sylin]

Yea I dislike the cookie cutter deal with specs, some variation within a class is a good thing, being able to spec them out for varying reasons is good too, I want more to stats than simply being focused on 1 main attribute or 1 main and 1 or 2 secondary, I mean does anyone actually think at all when they use their attribute points for most classes it seems like a set path to follow. The whole lockout thing makes sense as long as there is enough other stuff to do, all I can suggest is time, as time goes on there will be more options, because of its strict theme-parky style I would find leveling an entire alternate char not nearly as good as the first time, The problem lies in if they lifted lockouts, the end-gamers would complain of having to run the same content repeatedly. Kind of a lose lose situation. More avenues of progression are whats needed more options, more freedom. A lot of supposed sandbox mmos coming out soon, and some of those elements could make a good game even better.

[Vesayth]

If this community is actually supporting the decision to lock out loot to this extreme degree, I see no future in this otherwise fantastic game.

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Oh look, I'm the only class that can roll on this item, too bad I already picked up that ring from the last boss that was only a minor upgrade.

Man, nobody in this group wanted/needed that item, and I could use it for my alt spec. Too bad it's just going to disappear into the aether.

It's so exciting to have new content! Too bad I've run it once already this week and gotten loot, so I have no motivation to do it again because I can't possibly get rewarded for it.

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And you guys are supporting this. I really don't see the appeal. And this is only on top of this culture Squeenix is trying to build around encouraging players to play with strangers rather than with their friends. Locking out a dungeon itself every week is one thing, locking out the loot is something else entirely.


I'm not even particularly mad about just this one dungeon. I'm mad about the precedent that it sets for future patches. Is this kind of thing going to become the norm? If so, I'm probably going to leave faster than I'd expected.

[Duelle]

Theres lockouts in pretty much every decent mmo ever yet this is the only community crying rivers about this. Seriously reading some of you ppl's posts makes me think you just now discovered this "mmo" thing.

This.

It's almost like most of the people crying about this have never seen how lockouts work. As I told a friend last night, the only downside in all of this is that we don't have multiple raids to get locked out of per week, and I'm hoping the number of high level raids increases as the game ages.

I didn't get bored in wow and I could collect a lot more gear for my one class than I can for all of them in this game. I have 6 level 50 jobs. If I played hardcore and there was a lockout in coil based on job it will still take me months to gear each job... and that would be some extreme hardcore playing.

This really depends on where they'll take gearing. If they end up going the "armor piece token dropping from raid bosses" road that WoW has been doing since TBC, you can reasonably gear up an alt class if your FC uses DKP, suicide kings or free rolls.

[Ri_ri]

Content being difficult due to a gear gap is pretty cheap.

Come 2.2 bringing Coil with level 110 gear, then CT in 2.3 with 100 gear to close the gap again... can't we just have a normal progression?

[Saidosha]

It's also problematic to assume everyone plays the same way weekly.

Averaging someone's play time over a month, let's say it's 40 hours. 10 hours a week doesn't sound too bad. Let's consider 2 weeks out of the month you can't play, but can drop 20 hours a week for the 2 remaining weeks. A lockout doesn't care if you couldn't play those two weeks even if you could put the equivalent effort in later. You're arbitrarily held back.

The people who would grind out everything in a couple days are a severe minority. While I strive for personal excellence, I do not play that way and would likely run 2-3 CTs a week, tops. Crusading against that minority is a fool's errand. Conversely, basically telling me I can't play doesn't make me want to, let alone pay for that restriction. There is also no benefit to the casual players. Once you're 5 weeks behind, you're forever 5 weeks behind without changes to the system. This is a problem not exclusive to XIV, but any MMO that utilizes time gating.

[Skotie]

The only reason for lockout's are to keep you playing longer. They get paid by the month so yeah your getting locked out.

[Kyrrios]

The only reason for lockout's are to keep you playing longer. They get paid by the month so yeah your getting locked out.

their wages will drop fast if they keep the lock-out in place though, i know many ppl are willing to quit if this is not changed.

[indira]

what they need to do is have more ways to get tomestones like special leves. leves with something like popped NM's they have so many things they can do.

that video showing the new rewards for the duty finder if you play a job thats posted it gives gil, it should give more tomestones NO BODY is running dungeons for gil maybe if it was like 10k gil a run.

[Rochetm]

WEll if the information is correct I can gear up full myth nearly as fast as full CT gear. That is all ignoring anything I get in coil.