Loot lockouts should be based on Job

[Bizniztyme]

Didn't you guys say you finish coil in like an hour max? Imagine no lockout, you would get Ilvl90 gear for every single 50 you have in a couple weeks and then come back to these forums and whine about not having anything to do, not even mondays, you will eventually quit and never come back, SE knows what they're doing because you guys are still here. lol

[DoctorPepper]

YOU DO NOT NEED ALL ILVL90 GEAR TO PLAY ALL YOUR JOBS IN ALL THE CONTENT.

This right here tells me that you really aren't getting my point. It's not about needing the gear, it's about providing incentive so that all of the people who are logging out Tuesday - Sunday want to actually play this game and experience something different. Basically you're argueing that it would be better to have those people logged out and doing nothing than in game, increasing the amount of people participating in content. Very few people are going to do something for nothing (like joining a pug when you're locked out) unless somebody who they are friends with needs a hand. Even if you make caps for myth based on jobs it would take the equivalent of 135 WP runs per week to cap out every job so it's not like many people will be doing that regardless.

[DoctorPepper]

Didn't you guys say you finish coil in like an hour max? Imagine no lockout, you would get Ilvl90 gear for every single 50 you have in a couple weeks and then come back to these forums and whine about not having anything to do, not even mondays, you will eventually quit and never come back, SE knows what they're doing because you guys are still here. lol

Assuming you actually get 9 drops per week (good luck with that). The drops would still be locked out based on job per week so if you want full allagan for all your jobs you're looking at getting 9 drops per week for 13 weeks. If you're mixing/matching with myth gear you could probably bump that down a few weeks but even still, you're looking at an awful lot of dungeon runs to finish capping all jobs. I really don't see many, aside from a small minority, ever doing this. Also, how does it effect you as a player even if they do?

[Bizniztyme]

Assuming you actually get 9 drops per week (good luck with that). The drops would still be locked out based on job per week so if you want full allagan for all your jobs you're looking at getting 9 drops per week for 13 weeks. If you're mixing/matching with myth gear you could probably bump that down a few weeks but even still, you're looking at an awful lot of dungeon runs to finish capping all jobs. I really don't see many, aside from a small minority, ever doing this. Also, how does it effect you as a player even if they do?

Did i say it affected me in any way? I was just pointing out what would happen without a lockout. IMHO.

[Alhanelem]

This right here tells me that you really aren't getting my point. It's not about needing the gear, it's about providing incentive so that all of the people who are logging out Tuesday - Sunday

I'm scratching my head why you need an incentive. Maybe if you just didn't play the crap out of the game on monday, you'd have more to do on the other days. Tell me. Have you leveled every job? Every craft and gather? Have you completed every quest? Every FATE? Have you beaten Twintania? No? then you have reasons to log in Tuesday-Sunday. Have fun helping others. Run lowbie dungeons (which next week will have a brand new incentive, just for you!), help people with titan, there's plenty of stuff to do. This is purely a hardcore gamer problem, and even though I consider myself one, I still have reason to play the rest of the week.

[Noahlimits]

The lockout would probably bother me a lot more if I was only concerned with myself in game. I spend most of the time helping fresh 50's in my LS grind tomes or beating Titan. I'm kinda happy I can get all the coil stuff done with in one day.

[TawdryClay]

This seems like a bad idea to me. Not only would it make it much faster to gear each class if we could run on all the different jobs but it would wear out the content so fast. That is my 2 cents anyway.

[DoctorPepper]

I'm scratching my head why you need an incentive.

Personally I'm still logging in daily to grind fates mindlessly (thank god for duty roulette and increased dungeon exp around the corner) but several of my friends and FC mates don't anymore and they would be if they had some incentive so really, you can scratch your head all day but a lot of people aren't going to do something without some form of incentive unless a friend needs a hand. I do have all my crafts at 50 but have no intention of leveling gathering skills since the sheer number of bots that control the markets for mats on my server make it not worthwhile at all.

I'm scratching my head as to why you're so against this. How is it going to effect you in the long run? I would imagine you'd be happy to have more people to play with and all these restrictions seem to do is limit that number and force people to make alts when they really should not have any reason to. The only people who will get burnt out of the content due to this change will be those who are already logging out due to boredom.

[Traek]

I definitely agree and support CT lockouts being per job. The only argument against it seems to be "you'll burn through content too fast". It is such a short sited response. These people don't see that come Monday we already have burnt through content. I personally have Full DL and Relic every class, so I've made an alt just so I can actually +1 another weapon, and gear out said char in coil. I personally would love to see the limits I can stretch per each job I enjoy, and I simply cannot push forward in i70 gear.

Doctor Pepper keeps saying it, but people keep their head in the sand. Giving item lockouts per job gives everyone *MORE* content, and reason to keep playing. Putting on limitations, which, lets be real, are based off 1 class system of games like WoW, are just that, limitations. I'm saying this as someone who sits in Rev Toll and just helps people randomly (Chimera/Hydra/Ifrit/Garuda/Titan) as well. That is all I have to do these days when not in Coil/helping FC. Please don't bring up crafts/gathering, as there are people, like me, who despise such content. It is not my style of MMO, and I won't force you to face grind Coil for content, if you don't force me to face grind crafts. [Thank you.]

[Tiggy]

I definitely agree and support CT lockouts being per job.....snip[Thank you.]

No one is forcing you to do anything, but people come across as pretty hypocritical when the clamor for more content while blatantly ignoring a ton of the existing content. Whether it's your cup of tea or not it is still content you are ignoring.