CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[NefGP]

You want content that lasts?

FFXI pre-Abyssea. That was how you did things right.


Not so much in the % of drops (lord knows some stuff was intolerably hard to get just because it wouldn't f'ing drop - FFXI was RNG hell) but having a plethora of side grades spread across a multitude of different events. For all of YP's claims of making XIV a "theme park with something for everyone", it's doing a rather piss poor job of it when an older (arguably much worse in many aspects) game did it so much better. I'm not a fan at all of the constant flood of new and better gear that effectively obsoletes older content, especially in a game where you can play every class on 1 character (which is probably why we're getting the bullshit lockouts in the first place - as a ridiculous stop-gap method of keeping people from getting all the drops for each job and never re-playing older content, getting bored and then quitting).

Never had that problem in XI. There were just so many different options (some admittedly better than others but still) that even if you DID have all the gear you wanted, there was at least enough variety at end game that you could simply have fun helping friends & LS mates (Assault was a blast).

This is not the case with XIV since everything is set in a vertical progression and so we get deliberately cock blocked to force us to go back and manually do all the content we cleared and are sick of to inch our way back up on a different job. Or in the case of Myth Tomes, simply pick 1 or 2 jobs you want to play (due to the insane amount of time it takes just to get 1 full set of myth gear) and stick with those.

This is terrible, short-sighted design for end-game and it stands to ruin what is an otherwise brilliant successor to FFXI.


EDIT: Even the XI team has realized they kinda screwed things up with the recent patches and are adding in hard-mode versions of older content to upgrade all our old AF and other gear to keep it competitive with the new stuff.

[Maxthunder]

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Perfectly put, I believe you hit the nail on the head.

[Tenku]

Just give me rare materias that drops from normal mobs. I don't care if it's a .01% drop rate. At least it'll keep me busy. Stun Materia! 5% chance to stun target when using skills, spells, or auto attacks! Life Leech Materia! Make them all unique and untradeable so that farmer bots doesn't take over the world. Give us some epic extreme hard quest that will take weeks if not months to upgrade our Relic +1 to Relic +2 which gives a materia slot!

[Grailer]

I think they need to make drops in dungeons similar to diablo 3 , loads of trash items drop , sometimes a really good item drops and 1 in a million times a legendary item drops with the most amazing stats ever .

That would keep people busy forever almost . Oh did I mention don't add a Real Money Auction House ?

[Ronzeru]

Getting faster gratification will make you quit too. It's kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to gamers.

[Grailer]

Getting faster gratification will make you quit too. It's kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to gamers.

forcing players not to beable to play the game with lockouts is the dumbest idea ever . Why would you want your players not to play your game ?

[indira]

Getting faster gratification will make you quit too. It's kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to gamers.

gamers dont exist anymore the casual days killed them off. people buy wins. i see guys shouting to buy garuda & titan wins. they buy the wins on that but want to play the harder stuff.

[Ronzeru]

forcing players not to beable to play the game with lockouts is the dumbest idea ever . Why would you want your players not to play your game ?

Ah.... but.... we are playing the game. And the moment they 'do' do that this early on, everyone will go from 'why the lock outs' to, 'the content is cleared too fast/easily.

Tell me, once they remove lock outs, you spam the dungeon all in one setting, and get bored of it, then whats your next plan? To come back to the forums and complain about that....

Same thing in all MMOs.

[Randalthor]

There will always be these people even if there's a million and one things to do. People also need to realize that this is a "catching up" patch. Basically it's everything else that was supposed to be in release and then a little more. Should it have been ready before this? Definitely and I believe it was a mistake as a result. But at least they aren't letting it slide and already admitted it was a little bit of a slip up. The next patch will be where they hit gold, I hope. They've done well so far imo and they're really just getting things started. Every MMO launch has it's ups and downs before it levels out.

Trust me, it's the NEXT patch where they get it right!!! ...Fast forward a year... Trust me, it's the NEXT patch where they get it right!!!

[Aegis]

The number of people with full i90 gear for even one class is a tiny, tiny percentage of the population, i80 is a step up from anything <i90 except very expensive penta-melded gear.

Therefore it's an additional thing to do to gear up your character that is beneficial to >99% of the population (well 100% technically since no-one has full i90 gear across all classes). I'm not particularly in favour of or particularly against lockouts, but a loot lockout is better than a content lockout.

If you can run Coil 1-5 in 90 minutes, more power to you. The majority of the population does not clear 1-5 in a week. Did you expect them to specifically cater to a tiny proportion of the playerbase over that of the main body? Be patient, harder content will come for you too. Just not this patch.

forcing players not to beable to play the game with lockouts is the dumbest idea ever . Why would you want your players not to play your game ?

Not getting loot is not the same as not playing the game. Perhaps CT will actually be fun? Or do you only play for loot? I mean, don't you actually enjoy playing content in it's own right?