CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[Marzapan]

Yes, but sadly we don't live in a world where things make sense. This lockout bull is just reinforcing the idea that I should be leveling up my alternate characters. Which is a shame because I picked up FFXIV due in no small part to the lure of the armory system and instead of trying to take full advantage of it they're pushing people who want to have more than one job that's geared into using other characters instead.

What my dad would say is " If you're looking for logic in the world, you'll be sorley dissapointed".

[Felis]

I think many players fear that they get their gear at day 1 and would have nothing to do the other days.

Solution:
1. keep ready a dice
2. if a gear you want is in a chest, use first the dice
3. if you get 1 or 2, choose Need or Greed. If you get another number, click on Pass
4. If you have until sunday no gear, give yourself on sunday the "ignore the dice" buff (if it is not too casual for you)

I think this is also good for the people who are missing the old "low droprate in dungeons" feeling.

[lordkabal26]

That's not a solution, it doesn't solve the issue for people that want the gear SOLELY for the appearance. I want to grab the gear ASAP so that I can focus on helping people with it instead of having to compete with others to get all the gear on a weekly basis. The fact that only 4 yes FOUR chests drop per party and that only ONE person from each party can get an item from each chest will lead to cases where people will miss out on stuff that they wanted in a later chest because they rolled need on an earlier chest or worse they're helping with an FC run and a piece nobody needs drops but someone would like it for an alt class but CANNOT get it because they already won a piece earlier in the week (this is a situation I will be falling into quite a bit since I routinely run content with my FC and not with randoms in duty finder)

[Brutikus4th]

It's a broken design no matter how many times anyone says otherwise. ...

[whoopeeragon]

For a lot of people, that's all they have to do.

For a lot of people who are part of the minority.

[Felis]

That's not a solution, it doesn't solve the issue for people that want the gear SOLELY for the appearance. I want to grab the gear ASAP so that I can focus on helping people with it instead of having to compete with others to get all the gear on a weekly basis.

In a MMO, you don't get every gear ASAP. It need time to get it.

[lordkabal26]

Oh I know it takes time, but that time is typically doled out by RNG not by ridiculous lockouts, stop defending a bad call on the part of the devs

[EmSix]

For a lot of people who are part of the minority.

It's still, in terms of pure numbers, a lot of people.
Yoshi's paycheck would decrease by a significant amount if even the "minority" got fed up and stopped playing.

[rappa]

Our FC is not a hardcore company. We play 2 hours per day to go Coil. We cleared turn 1-4 wearing ilvl 70 and some piece of ilvl 90.

Atm, we are fighting versus twintania, phase 4 and 5. I expect, twintania will be defeat before the patch will be release.

1 month ago, we do turn 1-4, 1:30 mins or more. The rest of the week, leveling other alters or crafting. 3 partners and me playing 2 hours per day, have all crafter lvl 50 (thanks levequest repeatable). Now, we are playing more time caused by we are nearly to kill twintania. But other days, it's not necessary, at least you want all lvl 50 battle and magic class.

As i said, we are no hardcore. Do you think are you unable to get the same thing? Are you not a static fc or group? is it my fault than you haven't a group to do coil?

If you have a smart look, you will see this patch is a step back. You think, using DL are unable to complete Coil (coff coff i am laughing). Then, what do you expect wearing '1' item ilvl 80 more if you haven't a static group? Mythology cap will be increase to 450, spend wisely you will bet more ilvl 90 per week than drop per CT, unless you spend mytho to upgrade all alters relics weapons.

Our fc and a lot of fc will be 3 months clearing Coil (if not leave the game) after the patch.
Monday, clear Coil. Primal extreme, probably, be generous, 2 weeks(they demand ilvl 80 gear, we are nearly ilvl 90). The rest of time, pvp? leveling other chars?

3 months seems to me too long.

It's easy to say "don't pay your subs" Sure, but now, do yo notice a lot of people left the game, the price of items in market are decreasing, the demand of gear ilvl 70 craft is inexistent or you must wait one week to sell one item.

A live content attract people, to farm a low gear not.

[Lokean]

I...I don't understand really. I hear people say in 3-4 days they got 50 in any class they do. That they ran out of stuff to do, that now they are bored. I just don't understand really. No, seriously, not trolling or anything. I don't understand. I've been doing this since Early Access, and I still haven't even touched Coil yet. I have spent a lot of time as well, though only about 3-4 days a week, but, a whole day. So, I just only recently beat Titan HM and got my Relic for WHM, and just started DRG to close the gap(I like to give my FC options if they need help), along with my FC where some are only just now catching up to me. One member has entered Coil and started beating a few turns, so, I don't understand where people say they have nothing to do. How?! You must have played non-stop for weeks and forgot about life? Maybe not, maybe I'm missing something, but either way, I have fun! Still do, I look forward to this patch.

Yes, that loot lockout is kinda annoying and I'm not looking forward to it, but, there is PvP, housing(I play MMOs for a SOCIAL FACTOR! If I wanted to play an MMO for the grinding questy stuff, I would play games like Diablo that do the same, MMO means multiple people I can interact with), beast tribe quests, bloody treasure hunting ARRRRRR matey! I just...I really don't understand where people say, there is nothing to do, I hate this game bye. Well, maybe you just went too fast? Didn't stop and enjoy the minor things here and there? Maybe this is your fault, not SE's? I don't know. I don't know how long you have played each day. All I know, from my point of view, you folks rushed way too fast and didn't enjoy the ride, and now are sitting in the backseat asking your parents "are we there yet?".

Also, a reason there might be a loot lockout is, CT is suppose to keep expanding, maybe later on this dungeon gives such good gear that it needs to be placed. SE knows the future of this game, we don't. There could be a reason that is explained down in, 4-5 patches.