CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[Tenku]

The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?

This game is heading in a direction that many of us feared it might... full of limitations.

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[Vahlnir]

The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?

This game is heading in a direction that many of us feared it might... full of limitations.

So people wanted content that lasts...they give the players CT to keep most coming back for x amount of weeks. You are guaranteed 1 drop per week if you are persistent enough. Gear progression isn't a limitation...it's, well, progression. Meant to take time like many things in the majority of MMOs. Vanity gear is also great if you like the looks and is a different type of gear progression in a sense. If not then this patch or game for that matter might not be your cup of tea if you are already unhappy with the Coil grind which is much less forgiving (so I've heard.)

[Sindele]

Unfortunately, Tower offers very little substantial to progression. A number of people in my FC have already stated they're likely just going to log in for Myth stones and Coil and skip on Tower entirely with the lockout in place. Anecdotal, sure, but these are the people I do content with - and they're not interested in doing it more than once because it offers only a tiny, unreliable trickle of gear they don't really need for progression, and has the potential to be far more aggravating than that one piece of gear is worth.

Remember that crafted gear becomes cheaper come 2.1 as well, and with how the materia system works, several pieces are directly competitive with theoretical Tower gear.

[Reyki]

u have already nothing to do due the limitation ......

[Noahlimits]

We look forward to hearing your multiple threads when you do officially quit.

[Noahlimits]

People like you who are so far behind shouldn't make assumptions. It takes less than 90 minutes to clear Coil Turn 1 to 5 and get over 200 ToM just from that alone. 3-4 more WP which takes about 9 minutes a run. 90 minutes + 36 minutes = 2 hours and 6 minutes to be completely done with the game for the week.

It's not really fair to call someone who has a relic +1, a piece of coil gear and an extra i90 or two 'so far behind'. For all you know, he's cleared turn five. Also, not everyone has a static to do 9 minute runs with. Just because you had excess time to level every single class to 50 and are now bored doesn't really make it right to call someone who is doing the same end game content as you 'far behind'. If it was his intention to only really use DRG and not level the rest besides cross class, is he still considered behind?

Sorry for the tangent, but that just sounds like elitist talk (which gets on my last nerve).

[Tenku]

It's not really fair to call someone who has a relic +1, a piece of.. behind?

Sorry for the tangent, but that just sounds like elitist talk (which gets on my last nerve).

Excess time? It's SE's fault for making this game too easy. It took 3 days max to get each DoW from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. It took 3-4 days max to get each DoH from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. Only ELITISTS wants to gear every DL piece for every single class, which I am not willing to do. I use all AK gears for my alts and have almost every piece of AF+1 or Allagan for my main class. I'm not the only one in this situation; many of my FC members and people on my friends list are.

When I said far behind, I meant in his ability to obtain ToM without having to spam instances for 5-10 hours like he mentioned.

[Noahlimits]

Excess time? It's SE's fault for making this game too easy. It took 3 days max to get each DoW from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. It took 3-4 days max to get each DoH from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. Only ELITISTS wants to gear every DL piece for every single class, which I am not willing to do. I use all AK gears for my alts and have almost every piece of AF+1 or Allagan for my main class. I'm not the only one in this situation; many of my FC members and people on my friends list are.

When I said far behind, I meant in his ability to obtain ToM without having to spam instances for 5-10 hours like he mentioned.

And I'm guessing each day you leveled to get from 1-50 you played at least 4 hours a day (definitely more than that to get a class from 1-50 in a single day)? Even if it takes three days, if you're playing at least four hours a day that sounds like a lot of excess time to me.

[OrionInerghem]

Excess time? It's SE's fault for making this game too easy. It took 3 days max to get each DoW from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. It took 3-4 days max to get each DoH from 1 to 50. Some only took a day. Only ELITISTS wants to gear every DL piece for every single class, which I am not willing to do. I use all AK gears for my alts and have almost every piece of AF+1 or Allagan for my main class. I'm not the only one in this situation; many of my FC members and people on my friends list are.

When I said far behind, I meant in his ability to obtain ToM without having to spam instances for 5-10 hours like he mentioned.

I've played pretty moderately. Certainly no more than I played FFXI, I have everything 50, and working on 6th Relic.

So I'm farther along in XIV before the 1st update than it took me 10 years to do in FFXI. Hopefully Yoshi was quite serious about the 1-50 range just being a tutorial...