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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    Still its not the emote itself that is the big issue here, IMO its the fact that SE feels the need to babysit their players to keep them away from harmful things (using emotes to make porn i guess).
    This. How many of the people in this thread would have actually used the emote? It feels like the majority is only balking because they are getting restricted, regardless of whether they would use it or not. (And yes, I understand that there are people who really do want to use the emote among the posters too).

    Personally I don't really mind not being able to use it anywhere. I wasn't planning on sleeping on Ifrits tail anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    Its not a discussion, its people that want SE to remove the limitation of said emote because their reasons for limiting it in the first place is wrong since what they are trying to prevent from happening already is with the existing emotes. Your not discussing anything, you just said that this cause was ridiculous because according to YOU theres more important things to discuss. And who said anything about beeing mad, people simply want a proper answer from SE that makes sense.
    That's the thing. Saying there are more important things to discuss is fact, not opinion. Normally I don't speak in absolutes like that, but the current existing problems are infinitely more important than this particular subject matter. There is no way to say that server issues, mechanics, and several other issues take a back seat to this.

    I'll say again, I think it's great that young people have pent up energy and feel a need to stand for certain personal freedoms. The world needs more of that. But this?!?!?!?! Personally, I don't like people telling me what to do. But some people here are treating this like SE is trying to take away your right to bear arms.
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    So all the while that SE is worrying about whether emotes can be used inappropriately, over at Zenimax ESO will start with virtually double the amount of emotes that FF14 ARR currently has. I bet one thing Zenimax wasn't doing, and that was sitting around trying to see if there was any provocative possibilities with each emote they are adding to the game.

    In all the years I've played MMO's I have not actually seen the shenanigans occur in-game that SE seems to be so concerned about. It seems to me the only losers here are the players because now every new conceptual emote will go through the same process of restriction or elimination, sad really, especially for the RP'ers out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    Saying there are more important things to discuss is fact, not opinion.
    1. You need to check your definitions for fact and opinion.

    2. Posting in this thread stating that restricting the /doze emote was a bad idea does not exclude me or anyone else from posting in other threads about other issues. I'm a pretty vocal person, and I do speak up when I see something I'm unhappy about (as anyone can tell from my post history).

    Back on topic: SE needs to stop smothering their playerbase and just give us their content without arbitrary restrictions. Let us use the darn /doze wherever we want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Maybe my game is just special but I can still use /doze and it plays an animation. You're losing nothing.
    Only in a very particular location that the majority of players do not have access to. It's absurd. I've never seen this in emote systems in other MMOs - and for good reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Battlewrench View Post
    I'd SE would have said nothing and did nothing you all would have never known and would be happy....think about it.
    Incorrect. I'd still be upset once I noticed it. I did make this thread after all.

    And Imapoonu, thank you for not actually providing any counter to either of the two statements I made towards you.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 12-28-2013 at 01:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    holy cow people are really fussy over an emote lol is it really that big of a deal that it warrants dev attention and a 12 page thread?
    Lol, white knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    holy cow people are really fussy over an emote lol is it really that big of a deal that it warrants dev attention and a 12 page thread?
    I'm kind of tired of your type, always thinking that just because something is small and doesn't effect you that it couldn't possibly effect anyone else or be worth a look at.

    Really? Get over yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    if people would put so much energy for their rl freedom instead of fighting for it in a game the world would be a better place.

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    have fun
    Sure, lets not enjoy our game and alow SE to restrict us from every single little new thing they add, RESTRICTION THIS RESTRICTION THAT. I'm tired of all there restrictions, SE just let us play and enjoy the game without keeping us from content and I'm not talking about the emote, I'm talking about everything.
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    Last edited by Vandark; 12-28-2013 at 01:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandark View Post
    I'm kind of tired of your type, always thinking that just because something is small and doesn't effect you that it couldn't possibly effect anyone else or be worth a look at.

    Really? Get over yourself.
    The funny part? People who make this a big deal are doing exactly the same as she's doing - "Why can't I use this style of /doze anywhere SE? It's a big deal, it's game breaking and quite frankly silly that I'm restricted from an animation."

    Don't tell people who find this insignificant to get over themselves when they're not the ones making a big deal about it :\ I mean, look at how angry you got over a non-issue.
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    Here's my best guess on how this conversation went at SE HQ...

    "A conversation between John Doe and Jane Doe"

    "Hey John"
    "Hey Jane"
    "Did you see the memo about the lay down emote?"
    "Ya, pretty silly huh?"
    "Ya...let's just scrap it. We have a couple other things to worry about."
    "Okay, just scrap it?"
    "Yes. Release a pa stating we just don't see the need for developing content that can be used in a provocative way. It's not like they won't do it anyway lol."
    "Lol. I'll get on it."

    .........2 days later.......

    "Holy crap! Did you see that thread in the lodestone?"



    EDIT: And also...

    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    1. You need to check your definitions for fact and opinion.
    Nope.

    Here's another fact:

    Animal rights are more important than the rights of match box cars.
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    Last edited by Imapooonu; 12-28-2013 at 01:50 AM. Reason: structure,additional quote,additional facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imapooonu View Post
    Animal rights are more important than the rights of match box cars.
    Making unrelated, nonsensical statements does not actually constitute a valid argument. "Match box cars" are inanimate objects and do not have rights.

    Even if I were posting in this thread to the exclusion of all others (which, as I already pointed out, I am not, nor are the majority, if not all, of the other posters here - this alone negates your entire argument, as it is based off the premise that we are ignoring other issues), your opinion that this issue doesn't matter would still be precisely that: an opinion. As a roleplayer, the emote system is of huge significance to me, as I make use of it regularly to engage immersion during scenes. Being unable to access a simply laying down emote because of a completely arbitrary and nonsense excuse is not something I am going to just passively accept.
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    I'm just gonna repeat what I said in the other thread, because the entire situation is lulzy as all hell.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    I hope you understand that this will not, in any way, prevent the taking of inappropriate screenshots. People already take inappropriate screenshots with the emotes we have. Yet you guys are still worried about that?

    This is a game with references to rape, sexual exploitation, threesomes (Ruby-Eyes, Sapphire-Eyes, and Longhaft, anyone?), legal prostitution (both a FATE in Costa del Sol and NPCs in Thanalan), replete with suggestive conversation and commentary, and you're worried about inappropriate screenshots? o_O

    I think your priorities are skewed.
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