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    What's The Point of Pacification After Berserk

    I though I'd talk about this since I saw no one talking about this since Yoshi-P released upcoming changes. I get that everything is not perfect with every class when game launched and alot of things are being addressed but why did SE put this on a ability at all ?

    Berserk is good... but not that good to require a pacification debuff after use. Espcially since

    1. Your DPS is reduced in tank stance.


    2 Fight or Flight and Blood for Blood are argueable better since those increase Damage by % while Berserk Boost attack power.

    When something unexpected happens, those 5secs can feel like an Eternity ( I.E Provoke recast not ready, OOM). Could Spell Death. Lets not forget how annoying it is when a combo is interupted mid casting because of it.

    Would it make sense for WHM to be Stunned for 5secs after Benediction ? Or a BLM Silenced after Flare ? No.


    I love this game and I love the new upcoming changes to this game but some things makes me think what were they thinking in the first place...


    Examples:

    1. Foresight lack of power
    2.PLD Awareness negates healing crits
    3. Savage Blade as Cross Class
    4. Skull Sunder as Cross Class
    5 Lose healing bonus without wrath
    6 gimping attack power in tank stances when attack power is the most important thing for enmity
    7. Holmgang still Locks you down when most bosses resist it and contines to kill party lol.

    /sigh just venting. I hope they get rid of pacification after berserk.
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    You need a beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiron View Post
    You need a beer.
    I read the thread from top to bottom I am in need of one either.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Berserk has a pacification because the name of the ability is "Berserk". You go nuts, then you need to calm down and take a breather. Not everything is solely based around your rotation or an ability's effectiveness in combat.

    Also, while pacified you can do Brutal Swing -> Flash x2 and you'll be back in play. You can also pop Vengeance between Flashes.

    Also also, the pacification debuff can be removed by a healer. So you can macro it to say when your Berserk ends and when you need to be Esuna/Leech'd.

    Also also also alsoalsoaososo, you can couple Berserk with Unchained and Internal Release at the start of the fight and get a huuuuuuuuge lead in enmity.
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    M'aqaqa Qimi
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    The point of Berserker is buffing skills to do spike damage.
    The point of pacification is to prevent Berserker from becoming too much of a DPS buff, it was not intended to be it.
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    Last edited by Maqaqa; 12-05-2013 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Berserk has a pacification because the name of the ability is "Berserk". You go nuts, then you need to calm down and take a breather. Not everything is solely based around your rotation or an ability's effectiveness in combat.

    Sooooo...speaking with your train of thought, then would abilities liek "Foresight" be A parry a dodge move ?

    "Foresight" - The ability to predict or the action of predicting what will happen or be needed in the future....

    If I can foresee an ability coming....wouldnt it be smart to avoid it all together ?
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    That's why I said "not everything". :V
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaSinX View Post
    Sooooo...speaking with your train of thought, then would abilities liek "Foresight" be A parry a dodge move ?

    "Foresight" - The ability to predict or the action of predicting what will happen or be needed in the future....

    If I can foresee an ability coming....wouldnt it be smart to avoid it all together ?
    Would work if your character wasn´t as fast as a snail. Fortunatly you can move fast enough to make it hit your gorget instead of your throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maqaqa View Post
    The point of Berserker is buffing skills to do spike damage.
    The point of pacification is to prevent Berserker from becoming too much of a DPS buff, it was not intended to be it.
    This.

    Berserk is intended to allow you to front load threat and to buff the heal you get from Inner Beast. Its' primary use is not as a damage buff.
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    Strifin Everguard
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    I personally don't mind pacification it just another cool part to the warriors arsenal. Just roll with it bro, and enjoy the class in 12 more days were going to be awesome.
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