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    Why can't Coil have the same loot system as CT?

    Girlfriend has been suggesting this for a while now, well before they announced that this is how it would work for CT.

    Wouldn't it solve nearly every problem with coil? You get the loot you actually want. You can go back to previous turns and help friends, which means you don't even need statics anymore. You can spend more time actually doing stuff in the game when you're actually farming for specific pieces of gear. And on top of all of that, you're still limited to 8 drops a week per party so the gate is still there, just much more bearable.
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    Fixed this sorry was for the wrong thread.

    To contribute to this thread...

    I guess it would work.
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    Last edited by babzee; 12-05-2013 at 03:27 PM.
    Arkista Valentine- Excalibur.

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    But, but, it's more hardcore that way! Or something... I don't know.

    To me it's just SE attempting to make the currently hardest endgame content last as long as possible. It could be worse, they could have put 1% drop rates in there somewhere!
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    Quote Originally Posted by babzee View Post
    Because the best gear in the game shouldn't be easy mode to get.
    Says who? Out of curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babzee View Post
    Because the best gear in the game shouldn't be easy mode to get.
    I wasn't aware that RNG on drops makes things hard. News to me.
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    Most of the best gear in the game is already easy mode to get. Or, have you not met the lady giving out i90s for mythology tokens?
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    Adventure, that's the life for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by permbanned View Post
    Girlfriend has been suggesting this for a while now, well before they announced that this is how it would work for CT.

    Wouldn't it solve nearly every problem with coil? You get the loot you actually want. You can go back to previous turns and help friends, which means you don't even need statics anymore. You can spend more time actually doing stuff in the game when you're actually farming for specific pieces of gear. And on top of all of that, you're still limited to 8 drops a week per party so the gate is still there, just much more bearable.
    Cuz we arent white knights. if it was that easy people would unsubscribe. dont like it farm for ur gf the gear then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by permbanned View Post
    Girlfriend has been suggesting this for a while now, well before they announced that this is how it would work for CT.

    Wouldn't it solve nearly every problem with coil? You get the loot you actually want. You can go back to previous turns and help friends, which means you don't even need statics anymore. You can spend more time actually doing stuff in the game when you're actually farming for specific pieces of gear. And on top of all of that, you're still limited to 8 drops a week per party so the gate is still there, just much more bearable.
    In that case you could get a bizarre scenario where people just do turn 1 and only turn 1 until everyone got everything they need, and then repeat this for the next turn. You would get as much loot as someone who can clear it all since you're limited to 8 total drops per week for a fixed 8 people. I don't know if this is some kind of crime to MMORPG kind, but it sure would be weird if the best way to gear up involves doing turn 1 about 30 times before even attempting turn 2. Yes, in theory when you start farming turn 2 you'd have to do turn 1 without getting loot from it, but I'm assuming if you farmed turn 1 30 times before moving on you ought to be able to breeze through it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babzee View Post
    Because the best gear in the game shouldn't be easy mode to get.
    How would limiting you to one item per week in coil be easymode? If anything, it would be far better. With the current system, it's possible to get up to 8 pieces of gear for you class (You'd literally need the gods on your side for that though, but still , it's possible), I've had weeks where I've gotten 4 pieces of gear for my main/alt classes.
    The other problem with the coil lockout is that it forces 8 man cliques, numerous FCs have broken or have had drama caused by coil groupings (I can say it's happened with my own, too), it just creates a headache by limiting who can run with who each week.

    The Crystal Tower lockout system would have been perfect for coil, it's guaranteed weekly progression while also making sure you never get too much gear, and it allows you to go with whomever you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babzee View Post
    Because the best gear in the game shouldn't be easy mode to get.
    Here comes the elitist flame war. "Hard" and "challenging" apparently equal weekly static scheduling and dumb RNG luck in this new memo paradigm. I honestly don't want to live on this planet anymore. I wonder if well ever get to the point that content is actually gated on skill level. Least there's PvP to look forward to...maybe...ugh, don't screw it up again SE...

    Make coil lock you from rolling on loot once you've beaten a turn once, but don't lock people from participating and helping friends. Ofc people will sell it, but so what. People have been mercing titan for MONTHS and there are still tons of lv 50s without relics. In either case, people still have to find the gil somewhere, and theres no guarantee they'll get their desired drop, so the content is still being paced.
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    Last edited by GilbertLapine; 12-05-2013 at 02:43 PM.

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