Solution to lockouts. RNG.

[gamesmart]

They tried this type of drop system in 1.0. It didn't work.

[OdinTheTainted]

They tried this type of drop system in 1.0. It didn't work.

Yes I see that, believe me I have played enough MMO's to know. However why not cater to both crowds? create two separate dungeons that are based on each looting system, one that runs how the current loot system is, and one that is totally RNG.

They obviously have to leave the weekly lockouts for the players WHO CHOOSE to do it the "easier" way.

[Tenku]

Ugh, no thank you. Bad archaic game design is bad. There is nothing worse than going months without getting a single item because the RNG was being awful.

Yeah? You sure about that? How about nobody wanting to do the instance because they already got their piece of loot for the week already and can't get anything else? Be prepared for people crying about 2 hour wait time for CT duty finder towards the end of the week.

[KiriA500]

Yeah? You sure about that? How about nobody wanting to do the instance because they already got their piece of loot for the week already and can't get anything else? Be prepared for people crying about 2 hour wait time for CT duty finder towards the end of the week.

Well, people will cry regardless. It really sucks that this community is so bad that they'll only do something if they are guaranteed an item. Oh wait, people help out with fights/coils constantly. I got my Allaghan tank body piece the first time I ever did coils, yet I still do Turn 1 with my friends, because it's a group effort.

The type of people you're describing are a minority, just like the type of people who would want an RNG based loot system that has nonsense like .1% drop rates.

[DoctorPepper]

i would rather have the lockout be class specific rather than character-wide.

This right here is the only viable solution that I can agree with. People should not be forced to make additional characters to experience content on different jobs when one of the biggest features in this game is the armory system that allows you to play everything on 1 character. Yoshi has even said that leveling is not the part of the game he wants people to enjoy the most so why lock people out of enjoying the content on other jobs with the same character? I understand that you don't get locked out in the same way you would in coil but personally I will not run this multiple times per week if I won't get anything besides philo (because my myth is probably already capped). If the lockouts were per job I would gladly enjoy the content multiple times per week across other jobs.

[Tenku]

Well, people will cry regardless. It really sucks that this community is so bad that they'll only do something if they are guaranteed an item. Oh wait, people help out with fights/coils constantly. I got my Allaghan tank body piece the first time I ever did coils, yet I still do Turn 1 with my friends, because it's a group effort.

The type of people you're describing are a minority, just like the type of people who would want an RNG based loot system that has nonsense like .1% drop rates.

You are wrong. The type of people I am describing is the majority. My group is the minority that helps random noobs with Titan HM runs to combat the sellers. RNG based loot system is not bad if the drop rate is not bad. Who said it had to be .1% or 5%? Why couldn't it be 10% or 20%? Hell, why couldn't it be 100%? There's so many jobs and so many different pieces of gears, the % that you will get the piece of gear you want is already lower than a 10% chance.

[OdinTheTainted]

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[Marius]

i would rather have the lockout be class specific rather than character-wide.

This right here. I would always prefer lockouts over any RNG. Especially playing the first version of FFXIV and other various mmo's. Nothing worse then running something so many times and not seeing anything drop. I'm all for lockouts, but if they make them character wide that would be the one of the more stupid things SE has done. Should be CLASS specific then the system wouldn't be bad at all.

Most long term players in WOW had more max level characters. If you didn't get something using the group finder, you can just log in your alt and try for loot there. FFXIV is built upon you being able to be all classes and jobs so you don't have this luxury which I feel is stupid. People have more than one max level job and should be able to gear those those jobs.

[Marius]

If I don't get class specific gear on my PLD, I would definitely run CT on my SCH for a chance for SCH gear. If i'm locked out for getting gear once a week for every job for just one run, the only reason I see people doing CT is if the ratio of philosophy and mythology tomes are high after completing it. That is, unless SE puts a cap on giving you tomes after you complete it once or something similar.