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  1. #91
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    Astarica's Avatar
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    Olan Durai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    EQ1's content originally is due to spawn timer. If Emperor Ssraeshza respawned on Monday and Aten Ha Ra respawned on Wednesday, you don't get to argue with that kind of schedule because the rival guilds will certainly have no problem killing them at these times, so of course you got to do stuff every day simply because that's when the mob becomes available and if you don't do it, someone else will definitely kill it too. Later on it becomes a matter of politics, as in since the game has even more bizarre class requirement gimmick than this one, you know that the 3rd warm-blooded Beastlord you recruited is needed for encounter X so while this guy is totally useless for everything else, if he whines about wanting to do some lesser content you probably should kill it in case he defects to another guild and now you cannot meet the gimmick class requirement.

    As for WoW, people complain about lack of content or too much trash, or bosses that drop nothing useful and just gets in the way all the time throughout its history.
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  2. #92
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Sorry I'm not good at making my own fun like regular people. For Example if speed run WP is the most efficient way to gear up, that's fun to me. You may enjoy doing it with a bunch of people in swimwear and take 2hours but that's not fun to me.
    That's your prerogative. I do speed run WP with spiritbonding gear. I have 5k HP as a tank, and am capable of doing speed runs, even if for the first part I do one more pull than a regular speed run would. Still gets it done in 15 minutes, and I gain some materia after every 3 runs for my efforts. Just twist it up a little. Do some Praetorium - help out some newbies.

    Or you can cap your myths by doing Titan HM 10 times after clearing Coil 1 - 4. Or Garuda HM 15 times. With a geared 1 tank/6 DPS/1 healer party, Garuda HM can be cleared in 4 minutes or less per run. That's 1 hour for 150 myth tomes (make it 75 minutes, since we should count zone in/zone out times, and the off time to go repair gear in between). I am also farming for the Garuda feather anyway, so more benefits for me.

    It's like you're complaining that you're sick of eating chicken everyday, yet you still somehow force yourself to continue eating chicken everyday. Try beef for a change. But hey, if you're having fun doing WP speed runs, then more power to you. I personally cannot stand speed runs, and choose not to do them.

    EDIT: ValeTudo hit the nail on the head with food analogy.
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    Last edited by juniglee; 12-05-2013 at 09:24 AM.

  3. #93
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    Rijda Highstaff
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Honestly it's posts like these that make me wish I could find more widespread roleplay.

    I haven't RP'd (or wanted to) in nearly a decade and this is the first game I've played in a long time that makes me want to.
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  4. #94
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    [QUOTE=Borfin;1628256] snip

    I am not talking abou hnm or nm's. I am talking about dyamis, nysle isle and the other events. You could enter dynamis every 3 days, nysle isle you could enter once per day or save up your tags and do 4 runs in 1 day. You had other endgame systems that used point or as they are called in XIV tomes.

    Now Odin and behemouth dosent count they are useless and dont offer anything of value. They constantly disappear, there is no challenge in defeating them. Neither speak loud to me they are just a faint whisper, and others will agree with me on that (not all will agree).
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  5. #95
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    Admittedly, events are a fair point. I can compare Timeless Isle, but in all honesty, events like these are just more grinding masked as something different.

    (Although Timeless Isle proved it can be done in such a way as to be interesting and innovative. Something I liked about GW2 was the platforming elements.)

    Odin and Behemoth being uninteresting doesn't devalidate them existing, however. Your saying "they don't offer anything of value" is true of any world boss - they don't once you don't need anything from them anymore and are thus ignored.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    Admittedly, events are a fair point. I can compare Timeless Isle, but in all honesty, events like these are just more grinding masked as something different.

    (Although Timeless Isle proved it can be done in such a way as to be interesting and innovative. Something I liked about GW2 was the platforming elements.)

    Odin and Behemoth being uninteresting doesn't devalidate them existing, however. Your saying "they don't offer anything of value" is true of any world boss - they don't once you don't need anything from them anymore and are thus ignored.
    Some are interested in the future vanity gear but I am not, no offense but if I wanted to play dress up I could do that for free.
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  7. #97
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Now Odin and behemouth dosent count they are useless and dont offer anything of value. They constantly disappear, there is no challenge in defeating them. Neither speak loud to me they are just a faint whisper, and others will agree with me on that (not all will agree).
    1. Zantetsuken would like a word with you.
    2. Their disappearing acts can make it at least a little challenging with trying to find just the right spot to make them appear again.
    3. The gear and barding are pretty cool items to obtain, especially with the vanity options coming in a future patch.
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  8. #98
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    Aylaine Gray
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    Midgardsormr
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    No. SE's 3 month patch system is forcing them to use artificial stretching of even the tinyest bits of content in hopes that gamers will stay until the next patch. If they released content like other MMO's do, then they wouldn't have the ''monday'' problem.
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  9. #99
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by juniglee View Post
    It's like you're complaining that you're sick of eating chicken everyday, yet you still somehow force yourself to continue eating chicken everyday. Try beef for a change.
    The beef still taste like chicken unfortunately.
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  10. #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    The beef still taste like chicken unfortunately.
    Try salad then lol
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