Can this game stop being a monday game?

[Borfin]

thats really my point, all these games are the same $%^% over and over.

It's funny because that's MY point, and people are complaining about this one as though it's any different.

The issue with this is that this particular MMO model has been successful - absurdly so, considering Blizzard set the gold standard and WHO, SWTOR, FFXIV and countless others have (unsurprisingly) followed suit to try and get their piece of the MMO pie.

FFXIV:ARR took a lot of things WoW did right and expanded upon them. It was a good idea; a very good idea, the game has already surpassed the # of subscriptions XI ever had.

Welcome to the MMO model. Grind X to get Y to get Z. As I said, the only real problem with SE's model so far has been their choice to release a lower tier of content AFTER a higher tier has already been released, and honestly if they really are intending it to be a method to gear up alt jobs for Coil, I'd personally consider it more a stroke of brilliance in-line with their multi-Job single-character model.

I'd suggest taking away from this discussion the following:

- EQ and games with "lots of frontloaded endgame content" had only the illusion of that, nothing more; grinding upon gates upon gates upon more gates upon a small amount of actual raiding content. (Once again - This was a really silly point to try to make.)
- WoW's moving forward with "screw attunements and largely gating, LET THE PEOPLE RAID" was a large step forward and they enjoyed a lot of success thanks in no small part to it, but not all games are able to match the sheer amount of content WoW produces (seriously - they put out a living **** ton of content) and can't really be expected to.
- The game has been out two months and we are already getting a new content patch. It's a bit backwards (unless it's as I mentioned ofc, or otherwise) but it's still a new raiding content patch.

Why in the world are people complaining?

I am just saying there are already endgame systems in place in XI that could have been used but instead we get this junk. I am not saying copy everything exactly but they have the frame work for it in XI, and they could have altered it to fit into XIV in some way. 2.0 was rushed yet again and needed more time in the oven.

I didn't play XI, but from what I've read the only real thing (read: content that wasn't actually a masked gate in reality) that XI had in spades that XIV does not is world bosses, and those came with their own slew of problems (tagging/griefing). My only experience I can compare to is WoW, but I can tell you I stopped doing world bosses the instant I no longer needed anything from them.

Besides: Behemoth/Odin would like a word with you.