Can this game stop being a monday game?

[Borfin]

"Hi, I'm a raider raiding endgame content in a new MMO that just released two months ago. I've completed the endgame raid content just like I did when I played WoW, and just like when I played WoW there is no earthly reason for me to log in to get more gear since I've completed endgame raid content. However, unlike WoW I am dissatisfied and upset there is no more endgame raid content available to me."

I'm a raider. I get it. You don't like lockouts. How else do you suggest they gear-gate? WoW introduced Heroic content for raiders who had completed the normal-mode crap. Extreme mode Primals are coming.

The game is two months old, and some of you have been playing long into the beta, how in the nine hells does it surprise you there is little endgame raiding content?

Were you not prepared for this? If you only want to raid, a brand-spanking new MMO is probably not your game. Not yet, anyway.

No, they won't remove lockouts. That's stupid. That would only increase the rate at which content is consumed. They have two options:

- Increase content difficulty. This is a poor idea because of differing levels of skill. They could make optional difficulties, but that only delays content consumption, it doesn't create new content. In fact, it introduces a new problem: the "I killed Supermega Evilboss on Super-Easy mode, it doesn't feel the same when I beat him AGAIN in Mega-Hard difficulty" (WoW faces this issue with LFR/Normal/Heroic difficulties)

- Produce content faster than the players can consume it. Considering how fast you got tired of Coil, do you really think they can come out with a new raid tier every month or so? Blizzard churns out new content at an absolutely astounding rate compared to its competition and people still burn through it twice as fast. It takes them ~3 months with their absolutely massive team and budget to churn one out and that's considered absurdly fast releases.

Be realistic. There are other things to do. Either do them, or recognize that the game can only produce content so fast and deal with it.

[pochte]

my day is wednesday since it's my 1 day off of the week...and then coil w/ the static.

[DeathFiend]

Anyone that think this game is a "Monday" game needs to go shave their neck beard. Its starting to get too long.

I have a full time job and Im on 8-10 hours playing this game and have yet to come into a routine. I have so much I need to get done and I've been playing since Beta.

If your a "one-job-no-DOH/DOL" person, how do you really play the game with limited gil access? Even if you cap on all DOH/DOL.. go make sales. This is an MMO, live it, make money, experience your oppurtunities, donate, help out your fellow man, OR go outside for once.

[darkstarpoet1]

Anyone that think this game is a "Monday" game needs to go shave their neck beard. Its starting to get too long.

I have a full time job and Im on 8-10 hours playing this game and have yet to come into a routine. I have so much I need to get done and I've been playing since Beta.

If your a "one-job-no-DOH/DOL" person, how do you really play the game with limited gil access? Even if you cap on all DOH/DOL.. go make sales. This is an MMO, live it, make money, experience your oppurtunities, donate, help out your fellow man, OR go outside for once.

pretty easy. the game has been out for round 3 years and people started arr with only 1 class to level.

[NyneAlexander]

pretty easy. the game has been out for round 3 years and people started arr with only 1 class to level.

yep. this+1. SE screwed up when they re-released a game to players that already had most of the classes maxed out and only gave them ONE raid.

[Ninix]

You are jumping the gun? At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. Myth cap is 500 in 2.1 if i remember it correctly. You are still short 350 myth.

One-shotting turns 1-4 is extremely easy at this point considering how much gear and experience most endgame FCs have with it. And a "smooth" clear of 1-4 takes about 40-50 minutes, definitely not two hours. I don't know exactly how many people are one-shotting Twintania but that number will go up dramatically within the next month or so as people get more and more gear and experience. Once people can do it reliably, that's another quick 50 myth.

Also, four hour Crystal Tower...? Wha... what are you smoking? They've made it very clear that CT is designed as casual content that can be completed with a Duty Finder PUG, so it's not going to take four hours. Not even close. Moreover, in the live letter we can see the typical 90 minute timer in the corner of the screen, so most likely it'll take about an hour for a full clear, probably less unless you have really awful PUGs.

Clearing all three primals (once people learn them, obviously) will take about ~45m and will likely award even more myth tomes. They aren't going to make the primal fights take 30 minutes each when even Twintania takes less than 13.

PvP is not something that will be popular with the majority of the playerbase considering this is, y'know, a Final Fantasy MMO. I'll probably mess around with it a bit, but this game's combat system doesn't seem like it'll lend itself to PvP at all.

So then you take another hour or so to cap Myth (450 tomes, not 500) with some 12 minute WP speedruns, and... well, there you go! Please wait patiently for 2.2!

I should add that I am not "hardcore elite" by any stretch of the imagination. I do partake in this game's endgame with my FC, but it really doesn't take much to clear the content once you've learned the mechanics.

[Divinemight]

One-shotting turns 1-4 is extremely easy at this point considering how much gear and experience most endgame FCs have with it.

I will repeat it again I suppose. Hardcore elites are only a small portion of entire playerbase. You maybe able to clear Coil with minmiize of time, it does not apply to general player base. We are still seeing people who are buying Titan run because they cant do it themselves and we are also seeing people LFG for Coil Turn 2 everyday.

It is recommand that you stop exagerating the situation. CT, i pretty clearly used the word "assume and estimate" because I am not 100% on it as a fact. When it comes to general playerbase, CT wont be smooth at all, otherwise Blizzard wont bandaid their playerbase with LFR level of difficulty.

[rowdey1]

no i dont think an MMO should be just progression no story no fluff
what i think is that they need to continue the progression somehow , i think its a complete waste of dev time to come out with so many new things and alot fo new content in 2.1 and not have ANY aspect of that a progression to the current content of a character. a MMO doesnt have to be all progression all the time but when end game is already pretty small compared to other MMOS at release putting out 7 new aspects of the game in the first big patch but have all of it lower in Ilvl progression just simply doesnt make any sense.
My point is when people run out of stuff to progress with they get bored .. whether its the majority or the minority it WILL hurt the game which isnt good for anyone

[OldGeezer]

Seriously, one week lock outs for everything. Coil, Tomes, CT gear. Why does everything need a lockout. I mean like the vanity from CT alone is a extremely weak reason to even bother with CT and i doubt from the main story and coils that it will be a compelling story. Most likely a cheese gather event to get in it. Yay.

Its getting harder and harder to log in any day besides monday.

Not me, I play everyday. The choice to not do anything else is yours alone.

[Ryios]

Not me, I play everyday. The choice to not do anything else is yours alone.

What else is there to do?

Level mining/botany, crafts, other jobs?

That's not really fun. I choose to do what is fun. If this were my first MMO Ever, then the grinds wouldn't be so bad and I'd be having fun all the time, but it isn't, this is like my 5th or 6th MMO. What appeals to me is end game content now, raids, etc, nothing else.