Can this game stop being a monday game?

[Divinemight]

monday equals coil done and myth cap done ... ok once that is done lets look at your response ... CT??

You are jumping the gun? At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. Myth cap is 500 in 2.1 if i remember it correctly. You are still short 350 myth.

CT? You dont even have a clue how long it will take and how much myth you will get it at all. With 24 man, I will give you 4 hours for that, fair enough?

You are still not going to have enough for myth because i doubt CT will give you 350 myths. You nevertheless still have to either grind in ak/wp or beastmen dallies isnt it? How long is that? 1 hour?

You obviously ignroe PvP on purpose...... I will let you get away with it.
Bashing on EM Primals? They didnt even mention what is the reward, here, jump the gun again. Fine, you can choose not to do it, I will let you get away.

At least 7 hours for your to complete Coil CT and cap myth on Monday, sorry, only someone that is a NEET is able to do that. Majority of community, have a job and real life and pretty obviously that wont cram everything on Monday.

[Blarp]

You are jumping the gun? At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. Myth cap is 500 in 2.1 if i remember it correctly. You are still short 350 myth.

At least 7 hours for your to complete Coil CT and cap myth on Monday, sorry, only someone that is a NEET is able to do that. Majority of community, have a job and real life and pretty obviously that wont cram everything on Monday.

So, it's a Tuesday or Wednesday game then? I'm confused. Are people still NEET's if they finish it on Wednesday? What could we call them if they finish it early Wednesday evening? We need more cool acronyms and generalizations for people who we know nothing about so we can continue this riveting conversation.

[Divinemight]

So, it's a Tuesday or Wednesday game then? I'm confused. Are people still NEET's if they finish it on Wednesday?

No, you are wrong, if you are not decides to spend 8 hours or more a day on a video game, then it is pretty obvious that you are not a NEET.

There is also aflaw in your argument. No MMO is able to provide enough content to hardcore player (in which is a very small fraction of entire playerbase, not even enough to keep a MMO running). Every MMO is using PvP to keep players occupied, that is exactly what is happening with Wolf's Den.

If we really follow your logic, then WoW has no content either. You can completed Siege of Orgrimmar within 3 days then just not tough it for the rest of week. There are always contents, but just issue whether you want to do it or not.

[NyneAlexander]

You are jumping the gun? At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. [/U][/B]

my coil static clears turns 1-4 in about 30-40 min. The only time it takes longer is if we have to sub in a pub player. And even then it takes an 90 min at MOST.

[Incredible]

You are jumping the gun? At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. Myth cap is 500 in 2.1 if i remember it correctly. You are still short 350 myth.

CT? You dont even have a clue how long it will take and how much myth you will get it at all. With 24 man, I will give you 4 hours for that, fair enough?

You are still not going to have enough for myth because i doubt CT will give you 350 myths. You nevertheless still have to either grind in ak/wp or beastmen dallies isnt it? How long is that? 1 hour?

You obviously ignroe PvP on purpose...... I will let you get away with it.
Bashing on EM Primals? They didnt even mention what is the reward, here, jump the gun again. Fine, you can choose not to do it, I will let you get away.

At least 7 hours for your to complete Coil CT and cap myth on Monday, sorry, only someone that is a NEET is able to do that. Majority of community, have a job and real life and pretty obviously that wont cram everything on Monday.

Most people that can complete stuff on monday, don't need 7 hours. I haven't played in a few weeks, but we were clearing turn 1-4 in 30 mins, then 1 hours for 5 WP runs. 1.5 hours and done for the week. Granted more time was spent learning turn 5 and they are downing it weekly. As to CT, the lodestone page says a 2 hour timer. A 2 hour timer for DF most likely means a 1 hour run time unless people are really bad. You are exagerating your numbers.

[Mega_Man_U]

Most people that can complete stuff on monday, don't need 7 hours. I haven't played in a few weeks, but we were clearing turn 1-4 in 30 mins, then 1 hours for 5 WP runs. 1.5 hours and done for the week. Granted more time was spent learning turn 5 and they are downing it weekly. As to CT, the lodestone page says a 2 hour timer. A 2 hour timer for DF most likely means a 1 hour run time unless people are really bad. You are exagerating your numbers.

That's good and all, but again: that's not the way the majority of people play.

[Divinemight]

You are exagerating your numbers.

No, I am not exagerating my numbers, it is a general assumption for general playerbase. Hardcore elites are indeed a very small fraction of entire playerbase. their number is not enough to sustain a MMO to be running at all. It is general playerbase that is supporting any MMO that up running.

In fact, you are the one exagerating your numbers. Claiming everything can be clear on Monday.

[Raikki]

At best you get 150 myth when full clear Coil, I will give you 2 hours for that. That is if your group is able to clear 4 turns so smooth every night, in which is highly unlikely. Myth cap is 500 in 2.1 if i remember it correctly. You are still short 350 myth.

Coil is 200 myths. That's 1-1.5 hours for a decent group farming it. The myth cap is being raised to 450. Getting 250 more tomes using ~10 minute WP runs like now is another 1.5 hours. That's 2.5-3 hours to clear coil and cap myths. Until we have a better idea of CT (which isn't progression) and myth yields from new dungeons it's silly to speculate beyond that.

Personally, I think an easy bandaid would be letting us reset coil freely but giving it a loot limit similar to CT so that we can farm it for items we want while still not exhausting the content too fast. That would also address RNG frustration (e.g., in my group in 3 months we've never seen tank body or feet drop from turn 1).

[ValeTudo]

These threads and posts crack me up. The tl;dr should be: I only enjoy one thing about this game; endgame raiding/gear progression, so I will ignore all other aspects of the game and not classify it as content. Why does this game has no content? (sic)

You may not enjoy it, but gathering, crafting, alts, pvp, dungeons, EM primals, is all content. All development in a game doesn't go to release a new raid every patch just to appease the comparatively few players who can farm myth & coil in 2 hours. And to what end? There's no realistic amount of raid content they can put in a newly released game that would keep you playing all week, so it would probably be more intuitive for you to find a hobby that keeps you interested for the rest of the week.

We may as well start making posts about foods we choose to eat once a week because we only know how to cook them one way. They would hold equal merit to these, and will accomplish just as much.

[Harmonium]

He talk about gear progression. Who are cap, coil, ct. And one item from extreme primordial. And yes this is nearly nothing in a week.