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  1. #131
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    Zerosix's Avatar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kluya15 View Post
    So people are crying that you can't spam Crystal Tower for loot. But if you could spam it for loot, people would be done with the place in a week, and then cry that they are bored. Typical I guess
    That is not why people are complaining. People are complaining that 1 loot drop for 1 character is bogus. The game is meant to have tons of jobs(more in the future) and the ability to experience them all. No one wants full ct in a week. We want to be able to level multiple jobs at a steady rate.

    You are white knighting against your own freedom to experience the game from multiple jobs on your character. Why?
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  2. #132
    Player Aureliami's Avatar
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    Aurelis Celestine
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kluya15 View Post
    So people are crying that you can't spam Crystal Tower for loot. But if you could spam it for loot, people would be done with the place in a week, and then cry that they are bored. Typical I guess
    Everyone that has been playing since the start already has almost full 90 gear from mythology gear. So if this was really about boredom then CT does NOTHING to fix the boredom anyway which makes your argument invalid because why would someone who is bored about being maxed on loot even run CT for loot?

    The reason people are complaining is something completely different. CT was thought of as a way for people who got into FFXIV late(like in the past few weeks instead of since the start) to catch up so they can join their friends in coil or for people to get gear for their alt jobs. The lockout completely destroys this.

    This means CT fails at 3 things now
    1. it fails at fixing boredom
    2. it fails at helping people catch up
    3. it fails at letting people gear up alt jobs

    CT is pointless unless you have a separate character for each job.
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  3. #133
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kluya15 View Post
    So people are crying that you can't spam Crystal Tower for loot. But if you could spam it for loot, people would be done with the place in a week, and then cry that they are bored. Typical I guess
    I haven't done my weekly "Coils" run yet but I'm 3 pieces of ilvl90 away from all 90gear. So my MNK will have no need for CT gear. I will still do the content on MNK and get the gear, I also started to level other jobs to run CT to gear them so I wouldn't get bored In a week from spamming. But looks like that isn't going to happen. When your all capped out for the week on tomes/CoB/CT there is no incentive to run CT again.

    I thought CT was going to be a way to gear up ALTs while I wait to gear them in ivl90 gear.... Guess SE should have made the game 1 class/job per character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zerosix View Post
    That is not why people are complaining. People are complaining that 1 loot drop for 1 character is bogus. The game is meant to have tons of jobs(more in the future) and the ability to experience them all. No one wants full ct in a week. We want to be able to level multiple jobs at a steady rate.

    You are white knighting against your own freedom to experience the game from multiple jobs on your character. Why?
    ^^
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    Last edited by Arkista; 12-05-2013 at 09:30 AM.

  4. #134
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    Lenneth Val'kyr
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    Look at it this way:
    People want SE to release coil 6-10 for 2.1 but if they do that, they have to make the requirement that you complete turn 1-5 to even attempt 6-10 (for story and difficulty sake), so you would only get 5% of players doing these new coil turns. Also, Turn 6 HAS to be harder than Turn 5 or people will complain why they are doing easier content. Since turn 5 took BG 2.5 month to complete, turn 6 should take them 3months to complete.

    The end result: 95% of the server would still be stuck at T5, the 5% of the hardcore player will be stuck at T6. Number of new loot for people for the next 3 months: 0.

    I think even hardcore players who were banging their heads and soul against Twintania for the last 2.5 months would enjoy a change of pace for a bit.
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  5. #135
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerosix View Post
    And when new jobs come out it will be more lame with the way they are doing things. You will only be able to play each job at low gear level content, and will never be able to experience end game content as different jobs. If paying 3 dollars more on a sub is why they are doing character lockouts, I would gladly pay 5 more a month to be able to do all of it on 1 character...

    If you could go into coil in D/L gear, why would you say you can't go into coil with any other jobs?

    I agree it's a bummer there is a loot lockout by character, but to cry and say you can do nothing else on another job is false. Unless you are saying you can't do it all in one week, then yeah.
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    You should have bought an authenticator.....



    Your tears feed me....

  6. #136
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zerosix View Post
    That is not why people are complaining. People are complaining that 1 loot drop for 1 character is bogus. The game is meant to have tons of jobs(more in the future) and the ability to experience them all. No one wants full ct in a week. We want to be able to level multiple jobs at a steady rate.
    And you are completely able to. You're still be able to get tomes and exchange them for darklight/tier 2 AF. Even with the lv80 CT gear you can still leapfrog it by getting your tier 2 AF via myth stones.

    Crystal Tower having a lockout is not detracting from your ability to level and gear other jobs. If it was the only way to gear for coil then you might have a point, but as I've mention, myth stone gear allows you to entirely bypass CT.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  7. #137
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    Zero Six
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    And you are completely able to. You're still be able to get tomes and exchange them for darklight/tier 2 AF. Even with the lv80 CT gear you can still leapfrog it by getting your tier 2 AF via myth stones.

    Crystal Tower having a lockout is not detracting from your ability to level and gear other jobs. If it was the only way to gear for coil then you might have a point, but as I've mention, myth stone gear allows you to entirely bypass CT.
    It only allows for having 1 or 2 viable jobs. Other games have multiple jobs and roles on a single character that are all endgame viable. Right now FFXIV with its "Expansive armory system" has far less variety than other games do. Look at rift for example. I have 4 or so different viable dps specs, tank specs, a support, and soon a healing spec all viable on one character. In FFxiv I get to have one job which is one spec that is end game viable, and one that is less geared, and several that are going to be weak and behind...
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  8. #138
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    Dead Gye
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    Lamia
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Crystal Tower having a lockout is not detracting from your ability to level and gear other jobs.
    A gear lockout that prevents you from getting more than 1 piece of gear a week is not detracting from your ability to gear yourself?

    If it was the only way to gear for coil then you might have a point, but as I've mention, myth stone gear allows you to entirely bypass CT.
    Which makes it practically useless. Welcome to the point.
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  9. #139
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    Twiddle's Avatar
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    Amelia Inverse
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 60
    What we get/have: a light summer shower drizzle
    What people think they want: a 1 in a 100 monsoon
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  10. #140
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    Thunderz Canadia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kluya15 View Post
    And by that logic you can get zero loot from binding coil over the course of a year if you are that unlucky. Try again
    keep telling yourself that

    this lock out is bogus
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