Check Your Team's Gear Before Showing Off

[Faelandaea]

As I sit here, waiting 15 minutes for the penalty timer to expire, I wanted to share a tip for others who do runs for farming gear in WP and related dungeons - PLEASE check the gear of your teammates BEFORE running off and showing off. You and the other three teammates you queued with may have your relics and otherwise badass gear, but your healer - me - doesn't. I am sure others are in my shoes as well.

I don't care how badass you think you are. And I don't want to be carried through the bloody dungeon either. I want to play as a team.

Now the elitists WILL reply to this post and tell me I am whining and to go find a group of my own to queue up with if i want to go slow . . . news flash - the queue is for people starting off. So that response could be easily deflected right to the team of three who were so lazy they refused to find a 4th to go with them. instead they go in and keep wiping because they want to pull the ENTIRE dungeon and expect a non-geared healer to keep the tank up.

I have nothing against speed runs. But if you want to do speed runs - do what speed runners are SUPPOSED to do - go to RT, use shout, FORM your team, THEN queue. DON;T queue with a partial team! It will save YOU the headache of getting some under-geared noob (me) and save the noobs the headache of trying to keep up.

EDIT - have to reply here since post limit is reached. Apparently I am not allowed to contribute to my own thread. Anyway the POINT of this post is COMMUNICATE! I have no problem going FASTER than the norm. I just have a problem healing through a pull that aggros everything in the dungeon before the x-boss. Just communicate? Of course if you are against my post then you are indeed against communication and adjusting to the flow of your team. We may be complete strangers - but as long as we are in that dungeon, I could care less how Elite you think you are - we're still a team. Unfortunately a huge portion of the character base refuses to acknowledge that. Those folks should be off playing CoD or something.

If no one communicates and you wipe, it's everyone's fault.

Exactly. But it is so easy for these guys to blame the guy without the gear.

[Asiaine]

Issue 1: Some People don't communicate in DF.
Issue 2: Some People presume everyone does a speed run, and will promptly proceed to pull everything or nuke without abandon.
Issue 3: Some People or so obsessed about doing a speed run that they can't tolerate doing things slower, even if it only (literally) means another 5-10 minutes.

The issue is the people... and for whatever reason, the 'community' seems a lot less co-operative, patient, and communicative now than they did in 1.0

[Terius]

Issue 4: People are sick of doing WP for the 1000th time they will do it as fast as humanly possible, duty finder or no.

[Lurkios]

Now the elitists WILL reply to this post and tell me I am whining and to go find a group of my own to queue up with if i want to go slow . . . news flash - the queue is for people starting off.

I can't find anywhere on the DF or website that says that. Can you link it for me?

[PallasLloyd]

You need to understand by that using the Duty Finder you are implicitly accepting the possibility that you may get grouped with people with vastly different skill level, gear level, play style and objectives than you. That is the nature of how DF works. If you would rather not risk getting grouped with people who don't want to play the exact same way you do then you should not use the duty finder at all. And that goes for everyone. The problem is not the DF or other players, the problem is your expectations.

[Asiaine]

The DF queue is for everyone. The DF queue does not have an 'expectation' of who you will go with. The DF queue will be enhanced so we can specify if we want to go with ADHD people or a more 'relaxed' option. And soon mean people will be given a carrot if they behave nicely.

[Arriverderci]

Who has problems with WP at this day and age?
One of the easiest dungeons.
I don't even wear my top gear for that dungeon and I'm healer.
People are tired of doing WP and crap over and over, so I'm understanding to that.
I goof off anyways and since the dungeon is easy I think it's fun trying to super heal and stuff.

Going say it anyway: Should get your own team do take it easy with you. x:
You're throwing the dice at what people you'll get in DF esp when we're months
in the game.

[Lelouch001]

Why would you say they're there to show off when sometimes DFing the last person is faster than waiting 10-20 mins to get a last man? Also no where does anything say the df is for a specific set of people, the df is for everyone you're not special. This whole post of yours reeks of jealousy.

[Yurikitty]

So why do you have the timer? If you have a geared group there is zero reason as the healer you shouldnt have been able to keep up ,new gear or not. In fact that should make it 100 times easier for you to heal said dungeon. And, your a scholar of all things, you should be able to breeze through that place. Your gear is very decent. Again, Im not even sure why you are complaining or upset about this. Were they trying to do a speed run without telling you? I suppose that can be tricky but as you wipe the first time just say hey, how are we doing this and go with it. Be happy you are getting carried through the place. One more thing, if I was in your party and I checked your gear I would have never thought twice about doing a clipping run through that place, its not like you are in full AF gear with level 47 rings.... your argument is invalid.

[FinagleABagel]

And, your a scholar of all things, you should be able to breeze through that place.

Not to derail or anything, but WHMs are by far the superior job to take on a WP speed run. Holy and traited SS destroy the entire SCH toolkit.

Also, normally the job you are down is the tank (at least on my server). DF'ing with the BRD/BLM/Healer is typically no problem. Check the tank's gear/HP and if it's up to par do the speed run. The tank is the easiest part of the whole thing.