Crystal Tower and fears that it will bring out the worst out of people

[Vydos]

A sudden thought just popped in my mind about CT. Which I was amazed that I didn't think about it until now. Mostly because the weekly loot lockout got more attention than anything. But onto what this topic is/will be about.

24 men alliance. Composed of 3 parties of 8 people. With no choice to choose who the 2 other parties will end up being. They could be randoms or other premade. By now I'm sure that everyone can agree on the following thing I'll be saying.

Bigger parties = Bigger chances of having people being a liability to the group.

We've all seen it happen in all of the DF groups. Even in the small 4-men instances. Most of the time there is one person that ends up being awful. These number of people and chances tend to grow bigger when said parties become larger. Example: Titan(Hard mode)

Most of the time we somewhat manage to bear with it by simply filling the shortcoming of said person(s). Others will go into a rage and sometimes those that are a liability will simply quit during the instance(or those that rage).

You can see where I'm going with this...

Crystal Tower - 24-men instance

- 3 x parties of 8 people
- To eventually be split in 3 groups inside the instance to do god knows what
- group A+B is succesful and never/rarely wipes
- group C fails all/most the time preventing group A+B from completing CT
- Group A+B starts whining to Group C
- Group C starts complaining back and will most likely turn into an internal conflict inside the group to point fingers at their weakest link(s).
- Result: People ragequitting
- Rinse and repeat

I'm really fearing the above situation. And I'm 100% sure that I'll see the above situation happen all too often. At least during the first few days/weeks. Until people actually become familiar with it.

[Teon]

You forgot to add kick abusers lol

Let's not mention if players are mixed with japanese and eng

[Elvin]

Well, not only that.

When I did castrum the first days by DF It was rare the day I didn't find someone just.... Letting his character AFK to make the others get the tomes for them. They moved their character from time to time, but did nothing for the dungeon.


I still find people trolling like that from time to time, and I rarely use DF now, so... This people is still out there.


With 16 random people..... Chances that one of those doesn't show up are...slim.

[Teon]

Hehe afkers will have a lot of fun on CT abusing of every possible trick running when last boss is at 20% for chest

[UBERHAXED]

Well, if you report people (in particular for greifing), the GM's contact you in like 20 mins...

[Teon]

Well, if you report people (in particular for greifing), the GM's contact you in like 20 mins...

Good luck with GM service Sure sure, they will ban that guy, keep believing it

[Narcissus]

Good luck with GM service Sure sure, they will ban that guy, keep believing it

This



/somuch10

[Elvin]

"players are free to engage the mobs at their will". (Or do not)

I'm sure that some comunity rep or something said that. I reported them the first days. I reported bugs. I never got any kind of answer for any GM... Maybe the situation about that is better now.

[Aegis]

Honestly, the DF situation seems to have gotten better since that horrible (truly, truly horrible) first month. I can't say I've encountered any jerks in the last month or so and I do at least four WP runs most nights.

While with 24 people you are more likely to run into bad players/jerks they are also less likely to be able to significantly affect the run. At the end of the day you have 6 tanks and 6 healers. If one of the jerks is a tank, but one of the other parties have 2 i90-geared tanks in them, donate one to the underperforming team and have their healers focus him.

Personally I'm hoping for at least sections where all 24 people are together and the place just floods with enemies. That would be more fun to me than splitting into three teams of 8.

[Elvin]

I think that you want be able to help other groups donating them a tank.


And anyway, I recognice that I don't like to complete dungeons for afk people. If someone is afk I'll probably leave. I don't have problems with people playing bad or being bad geared as long as they try. But I won't carry people trolling being afk or getting nude and running around (Yeah, I've seem that too)