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    Who has a 10 sec DPS rotation guild for BLM and Bard?

    10 sec burst damage guide for t5 conflagration.
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    I'm assuming you are asking about the fast one, for BLM:

    Make sure you are under Astral Fire III with enough mana before Conflag happens (Astral Fire III is a 10 seconds buff, so 5 seconds before fast Conflag you should have it up). In addition, any Firestarter Procs or Thundercloud that happens within 5 seconds before Conflag should also be saved and used on Conflag. It is fairly easy to predict the next fast conflag without using any software or event timer.

    Fire 3 > SwiftCast Fire 3> Bliz 3 is a good rotation but it is not static. You may also add Raging Strike to the rotation if needed for the first fast conflag and use mega int pot if needed on the second fast conflag. Although I highly recommend saving potions for the snake phase. It depends on how geared your DPS team are, you may be fine without using any cool downs on any conflag.

    Note: Swiftcast Fire 3 is recommend when 2 DPS goes under conflag IMHO. A crit Fire 3 under Astral 3 hits for 1.5k-1.6k, 1k- 1.2k non crit.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-04-2013 at 06:46 PM.

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    BLM - Blizz3 > Scathe >Fire3>Fire3>Fire1 with procs... swift cast flare while still in Astral fire 3 if gets close but it wont lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nieshua View Post
    BLM - Blizz3 > Scathe >Fire3>Fire3>Fire1 with procs... swift cast flare while still in Astral fire 3 if gets close but it wont lol
    ^ yep also a good rotation, but I never did use Flare on Conflag so can't comment on that.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 12-04-2013 at 06:16 PM.

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    if the person is undergeared maybe i don't know was just a suggestion you can also use the swift cast for thunder 3 in place of scathe if you like up to player i guess i do it and use scathe when swift is on cooldown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nieshua View Post
    BLM - Blizz3 > Scathe >Fire3>Fire3>Fire1 with procs... swift cast flare while still in Astral fire 3 if gets close but it wont lol
    Why in the world would you use Scathe after Blizzard III for Conflags?

    Blizzard III > Fire III > Fire III > whatever is much better, preferably in UI3 before Conflag is up and skip the Blizzard III on the Conflag.
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    Because it works for me thats why. You can almost solo the damn things as blm anyhow so that little thing is not as big a deal as you are trying to make it seem. I use it when coming out of astral fire 3 to get mp to full before fire rotation if that answers your question more effectively..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nieshua View Post
    if the person is undergeared maybe i don't know was just a suggestion you can also use the swift cast for thunder 3 in place of scathe if you like up to player i guess i do it and use scathe when swift is on cooldown
    I've not had time to compare the math results but I feel the general theory for such short burst rotations like those on the conflags don't make effective use for casting thunders unless they come from a thundercloud proc that you get from Twintania's status. Better to save those swiftcasts for the Fire casts IMHO. My only curiosity is whether the firestarter procs are frequent enough to be ok using a single Fire 3 at the start rather than a double one.
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    I always cast double fire3 out of umbral ice3 and what you are failing to realize is that nothing i am doing is a hard cast. I dont sacrifice dps on twin to wait for conflag and we never have prob in this phase unless a whm is too busy looking at hp bars instead of the red triangle on their face. Also he asked for a rotation so post yours let the ppl decide what they like and stop tryna tweak mine. Blizz3 out of astral fire3 > wait a tick because if you spam fire3 to fast 1 will be a hard cast. cast fire3 2 times at double speed sec 1 hits like a truck always. while you are waiting a tick for that animation so your fires are both cast at double speed you can put your thumb in your ass swift cast a thunder3 insert a scathe do a dance or just swift cast a fire3 after your sec fire3 You decide what works best for you.
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    Who has an idea what's total HP on conflagration?
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