Thread: Is 1.18 the final straw?

Originally Posted by Preypacer

I'm actually quite excited (though pensive as well) to see what the changes bring to the game.

It's unfortunate that there are some who are so jaded by this point that they are ready to call it quits after SE's just really gotten started moving forward. Maybe between 1.18 and, perhaps 1.19, they'll get some of their interest/enthusiasm back.

Yea it is unfortunate that took them 1 year after release to put their act together.If anyone is to blame is them.Im pretty happy with today's patch. i want to play again.

Originally Posted by Preypacer

I'm not pointing fingers with that statement, I'm saying sincerely that it's unfortunate in those cases.

That said, generally speaking and in SE's defense during this whole ordeal...
1. It hasn't been a year yet and, anyway, Yoshi P's "era" started only around 6 months ago.
2. Yoshi was very clear from the beginning, when he took over, that it was going to take time for them to make the changes necessary and they've done all they can reasonably do under the circumstances.
3. They vowed to communicate more with the community. They have been.
4. They vowed to pay more attention to the community. They have been.
5. They've implemented, or have confirmed future implementation, of a number of things players have been asking for.
6. They haven't charged a dime for subscription fees for all this time.

Yes, "they should have had everything done correctly on launch". We know this. They know this. Everyone knows this. However, we're way beyond that now. Time has marched forward, SE's doing what Yoshi promised they were going to do... And so, at this point that there are still people making that statement seems a bit like bashing an easy target for the sake of bashing an easy target.

It's like having a friend who does something really screwed up, but swears to change their ways... You agree to give them the chance, and maintain the friendship. However, even months later, you're still bringing the event up to them, reminding them of what they did and trying to make them feel like crap for it. They've done and continue to do everything they said they would to make it up to you... but you just keep the abuse coming. There's something about that kind of behavior - in any context - that just seems cruel and abusive to me. Some kind of weird power trip.

FFXIV is a game. It's a form of entertainment. No one's life hangs in the balance of whether the game rebounds successfully or not. I just don't understand where some people's need to continue kicking away at SE is coming from at this point. I'm not a psychologist, but that kind of angry obsession just doesn't seem healthy to me.

I mean, if the state of FFXIV gets someone *that* upset, and they're *that* tired of waiting for things to turn around... Then move on and play something else! Dwelling on it and getting angry over it is obviously not going to make it happen any faster. It's not getting those doing it any satisfaction, obviously, since they're clearly still upset about it. So why stick around?

It's like someone standing with their hand over a fire, complaining that it's burning them and that the fire is taking too long to go out. Yet, instead of simply removing their hand 'til the fire's extinguished, they persist in keeping it there... just so they can keep complaining about it.

Anyway... that's just my two gil on the matter.

Like you said,is a game .A source of entertainment.
As such, the company alone is to blame for what goes wrong with it.If its not entertaining is the game´s fault , not the players.

Also, just fyi (no harm meant) i stooped playing a long time ago, because the game sucked hard.If today's patch revived it or not, i will tell you when servers are up.So far like i said i want to play again because it looks very promising.If game sucks still you can be sure you wont see me around here.

Patch notes seem very, very solid. if they don't introduce something unexpected, I would say it's opening the door to a potentially great game (If SE keeps it up).

i've been following this game since day 1 and have watched my friend play it for about a year. only reason i did'nt play myself was because i did'nt have a rig good enough until yesterday. but if you ask me, i could'nt have picked a better moment to join. patch 1.18 looks like the foundation for great things to come! i mean this game is'nt THAT bad prior to this patch anyways. i think people have saturated their hearts with tons of MMO's that just do the WoW thing, with a different dress on and now expect the same style from every MMO they touch. while i do agree that this game might have been released a bit too early, i also feel it needs more of a chance. they even went and had yoshi-p take over, (when's the last time you heard of a SE guy getting booted? that says ambition to me)

i personally played ffxi waaaaaaayyyyy longer (9 years-ish?) then i did WoW, and that game went through a myriad of changes, its almost a completely different game now.i bet if ppl that played ffxi recently went back in time to lvl 50 caps and absurd balancing issues(dragoons+penta thrust = why lvl anything else?) they would'nt know what to do with themselves. i know personally 1.18 set a fire underneath my arse, and i want to play rite nao.