Is 1.18 the final straw?

**Starlord** · 06-05-2011 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Malakhim

Actually, everything that Yoshi wrote in his letter will be here by summer's end(which could be august or september, I have no idea), and that includes the job system.

Alot to cover in a 3 month span so You would expects alot in each pacth ( Not leteered patches like a/b) those are hotfixes not patches mainly

**Poipori** · 06-05-2011 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Malakhim

Actually, everything that Yoshi wrote in his letter will be here by summer's end(which could be august or september, I have no idea), and that includes the job system.

yes everything that in the letter will happen before summers ends, but what is in the letter?

current-"Development of core mechanics for the job system"
future-"Cost assessment for job system implementation"
current-"Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills"
future-"Determine the attributes of each job"
current-"Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment"
future-"Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor"

This means that they are still in the "planning" stage for the entire summer.

There is no word on "Implementation of the job system" at all, so if you think that job system will be here before summer ends, you will be in for a huge disappointment.

**Vesperia** · 06-05-2011 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Poipori

yes everything that in the letter will happen before summers ends, but what is in the letter?

current-"Development of core mechanics for the job system"
future-"Cost assessment for job system implementation"
current-"Establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills"
future-"Determine the attributes of each job"
current-"Development of graphical assets for each job such as equipment"
future-"Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor"

This means that they are still in the "planning" stage for the entire summer.

There is no word on "Implementation of the job system" at all, so if you think that job system will be here before summer ends, you will be in for a huge disappointment.

Wouldn't that be so funny.

**MeowyWowie** · 06-05-2011 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Vesperia

Wouldn't that be so funny.

No, you saying this is what's funny. This is exactly why SE shouldn't be giving us too much info if they don't have any real time frame for it. People jump to conclusions and make up their own time frame. Then when those (false) expectations aren't met, they get pissed off.

How many people are already expecting the Job system for 1.18? Like, seriously? Wishful thinking is one thing, but some take it too far and end up extremely disappointed in the end.

What Poipori said is absolutely, 100% correct. There was never any mention of the Job system being implemented before summer, or even in 2011 for that matter. They never said anything about a time frame for implementation. All they said was that a Job system was being developed and gave us a few details. Unfortunately some took it the wrong way and are now expecting its release within a few months.

{That's too bad.}

**Poipori** · 06-05-2011 01:23 PM

Think of it this way, how can jobs be in game before summer ends, when their "FUTURE task" is still [determine the attributes of each job]?

They haven't even develop the core mechanics, they haven't even establish the details of the initial set of jobs and their skills, they haven't even assess the cost of implementing jobs, they will be doing those during summer.

**Nasibihc** · 06-05-2011 04:15 PM

As far as things are concerned, the only thing that's wrong at the moment is the speed they are updating the game. It's been what... 3-4 months since the last REAL big update? That's far too long to wait for a new update. I understand that there has been natural disasters in Japan that have been affecting their work, but that was already ages ago and even in the time after that they should have been able to come up with something more than a measly targeting update (1.17b).

If there is only a handful of people working on the game, it's almost sure that the game will plummet even further than it is now and this is because people (yes, even myself) are getting tired of waiting new updates when the game really does suck at the moment and is boring to play, mostly because of repeatative actions such as leves and crafting. There's no sure way to resolve this whole issue, but as long as there's only 10-20 people in the dev / coding team, this isn't moving as fast as it should.

What usually happens with a new coming MMO is that, they hire a lot of people to speed up the launch of the game. SE failed big time with this as the game wasn't nearly as ready as it should have been. So, I think SE should employ some staff (at least temporarily) to fix the game's status before people abandon the ship. In the long run, it will cost them less money financially than if they keep processing the game at the same speed they are going at it now.

**Jinrya-Geki** · 06-05-2011 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Nasibihc

As far as things are concerned, the only thing that's wrong at the moment is the speed they are updating the game. It's been what... 3-4 months since the last REAL big update? That's far too long to wait for a new update. I understand that there has been natural disasters in Japan that have been affecting their work, but that was already ages ago and even in the time after that they should have been able to come up with something more than a measly targeting update (1.17b).

If there is only a handful of people working on the game, it's almost sure that the game will plummet even further than it is now and this is because people (yes, even myself) are getting tired of waiting new updates when the game really does suck at the moment and is boring to play, mostly because of repeatative actions such as leves and crafting. There's no sure way to resolve this whole issue, but as long as there's only 10-20 people in the dev / coding team, this isn't moving as fast as it should.

What usually happens with a new coming MMO is that, they hire a lot of people to speed up the launch of the game. SE failed big time with this as the game wasn't nearly as ready as it should have been. So, I think SE should employ some staff (at least temporarily) to fix the game's status before people abandon the ship. In the long run, it will cost them less money financially than if they keep processing the game at the same speed they are going at it now.

Pretty sure they are still feeling the effects of it.

**Spellbinder** · 06-05-2011 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki

Pretty sure they are still feeling the effects of it.

I certainly notice it going to school everyday.

**Enma** · 06-06-2011 01:10 AM

With the 1.18 SE could regain some credibility and make people come back to Eorzea, but if they will fail... I don't want to think about it.

**Illy** · 06-06-2011 01:23 AM

I gotta say I have been having the SAME exact feeling as the OP. Was doing nothing but log on craft and log off and it was getting to the point where I just thought Why?

As for is 1.18 the Final Straw? I imagine it would be for a large amount of people. In fact a good portion of the linkshell I'm in have left the game until 1.18 comes out and if it doesn't have what they want when it comes out there is a decent chance they won't stay if they come back.(What used to be a very active shell is now nearly empty because of how many people have stopped playing until 1.18).

For me personally I have told myself I will give the game to the end of the year(Or until paying starts whichever happens first) to convince me it will get on track. The sad part is that when FFXI came out and was a disaster in Japan SE had already gotten it close to perfect by this point in time. I know this isn't a good comparison as the tech from back then is nothing like it is now but it's still very disheartening to see how slowly the game is improving despite the effort of the dev team. I honestly thought and still do to a extent think the better plan for SE would have been to take FFXIV down completely and work on it and then have a relaunch somewhere down the line. It's not like they are losing money doing this as the game is already free to play.

Considering how much FFXI has improved over the years I have hope that FFXIV will get much much better if it survives long enough to do so. The question is how long does it need and how long will SE allow it to get back on it's feet before they label it a lost cause.

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