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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Choc View Post
    My problem is how many are available to us, the length of those leves, as well as the set amount of sp we get outside of leves. 45+ is a joke currently, especially for botanists and miners.
    Agreed, they put up to grade 10 fishing spots in the game, but mining and botany only have up to 5... also my shell is really active about doing battle leves and helping one another out. Half the time I don't have anything to contribute, or I have to only grab two or three to be able to save some for my gathering, which I'm planning on leveling all three gathering.

    I guess my main issues are as follows:

    --Lack of gathering leves

    --Rank distance between gathering leves (1/10/20/30 compared to 1/5/10/15/20)

    --SP gathered once you're a few Ranks outside the leves level drops badly.

    --Why is it someone can go to a grade 10 fishing spot and fish to their hearts content for hours no matter their rank, but I go to a grade 5 spot for botany to raise my SP and it gives me 1-2 hits and then says its exhausted due to my rank?

    --Wouldn't mind a SP bonus if gatherers wanted to link gathering leves at camps

    --SE said all classes were equal and that gathering will be used when the new materia system comes out so why should I have to pick and choose between sacrificing SP for my Fighting classes and sacrificing Sp for my Gathering classes if Gathering is going to be needed more in the future?


    I don't know... they have done a lot for DoM and DoW, they have done many things for crafting (Thank goodness!), but all I have seen them do for gatherers is speed up our animation... other than that I feel like we have kinda been pushed to the wayside until they announced that we would be used with the new materia system. I'm still gonna keep leveling up my gathering jobs because I do enjoy and love the jobs... just wish we could see some adjustments.
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    Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 06-04-2011 at 06:36 AM.
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    SP boost is good news, finally, beginning to think gathers were no where to be heard of.

    But Ive been thinking the Fieldcraft and battlecraft should have been seperate from day one. Id rather crafting and fieldcraft be in the same league, and just boost local levequest max to 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    At this time, there aren't any plans to separate Fieldcraft leves from the shared reset timer with Battlecraft leves.
    Of course not because this is a simple fix that makes to much sense right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkwood View Post
    Of course not because this is a simple fix that makes to much sense right?
    Not a simple fix

    but it is something they should consider for the future plans


    i myself would really like to see them seperated too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    After speaking to the dev. team regarding the difficulty of obtaining SP via gathering-related levequests, they have informed us that they will be adjusting gathering-related levequests to reward significantly more SP than they do currently. Now you can level quicker to obtain that Star-Spangled Subligar you always wanted!
    woooooo sparkly pantsu~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokenkauph View Post
    I hope they change their minds on this, I hardly ever get to do the field craft leves because I use all 8 on battle craft leves to level with my friends. Leves are one of the few things in this game that give you a reason to group up with friends. Harvesting on the other hand is a solo activity, sure it would be nice to have some leves or quests to complete instead of mindlessly running from node to node but I cannot see trading a few of my 8 available leve slots to do so.
    Not to be mean, but that's your fault, not the game's. If you want them to be separate, you can do so. Grab 4 battle leves, 4 fieldcraft leves, and your crafting leve. There are an equal number of crafting and battle classes, and less than half that number are devoted to harvesting. Given how much slower the crafting classes are to level than either battle or fieldcraft, I think the current allocation is fairly balanced.
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    Last edited by Dreamer; 06-04-2011 at 09:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    There are an equal number of crafting and battle leves, and less than half that number are devoted to harvesting. Given how much slower the crafting classes are to level than either battle or fieldcraft, I think the current allocation is fairly balanced.
    There are an equal number of battle and crafting leves if you only do battle and crafting which would be 8 and 8. If you add gathering to that, it takes from your battle leves. If that factor is added in then there are now 8 crafting leves and 8 battle/gathering leves that can be split in whatever manner the player that does both wishes to split it.

    I don't know if it's just me but I find gathering classes slower to level than my battle/crafting classes in all honesty... and I rank everything. I just don't feel it fair that someone who enjoys gathering and battle jobs have to be stiffed SP because they enjoy ranking both. Even if you go 'pure' class, gatherers are still getting stiffed in the end.

    Pure Battle = 8 leves

    Pure Crafting: = 8 leves

    Pure Gatherer = 6 leves
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    well not for nothing, but just cause there are 8 crafting leve slots doesn't mean a crafter will actually get to do 8. Depends on what shows up and what rank they are, if they are leveling multiple crafts, etc. More often than not, class for class, a crafter gets to do less leves than a harvester, unless they just do low level ones in which they get double digit xp, or no xp at all.

    Still, I agree. Harvesters should get leves separate from battle.

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    Kai- I totally agree with you on the point regarding the imbalance between fishing vs botany and mining. I can stand by a grade ten body of water getting 250 sp per catch at rank 33+ and never having to move my butt to another spot. But I can't do so with the other fieldcrafts.the travel time alone makes it slower to rank up botany or mining. Not to mention that the speed up abilities do not effect nodes 200 yalms or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    well not for nothing, but just cause there are 8 crafting leve slots doesn't mean a crafter will actually get to do 8. Depends on what shows up and what rank they are, if they are leveling multiple crafts, etc. More often than not, class for class, a crafter gets to do less leves than a harvester, unless they just do low level ones in which they get double digit xp, or no xp at all.

    Still, I agree. Harvesters should get leves separate from battle.
    I do agree, not everyone might use all 8 crafting leves, I know I do because I'm addicted to crafting but this might (and probably isn't) not be the case for everyone. But at least crafters have the option to do so if they wish, gatherers don't even get that option.

    Quote Originally Posted by bird View Post
    Kai- I totally agree with you on the point regarding the imbalance between fishing vs botany and mining. I can stand by a grade ten body of water getting 250 sp per catch at rank 33+ and never having to move my butt to another spot. But I can't do so with the other fieldcrafts.the travel time alone makes it slower to rank up botany or mining. Not to mention that the speed up abilities do not effect nodes 200 yalms or less.
    Yep, totally agree with you.
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